Vieja melanura aquarium (photo session)

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Vieja melanura aquarium (photo session)

Post by Lee Nuttall » Sat Sep 01, 2012 9:27 am

I would like to share some photos of the V. melanura aquarium, soon to be replaced with something else.

This is a lovely population from Rio Sarstun, which are currently up for sale. :(

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Re: Vieja melanura aquarium (photo session)

Post by Piotr Koba » Sat Sep 01, 2012 1:20 pm

Even though my favourite form of V./P. melanura is the one from Lake Peten, those look really good. By the way, is it only me, or you prefer less stocked tanks now? If I take a look at your previous setups, you kept many more cichlid species back then.

What are your future plans for both tanks? And one more thing - what is your experience in keeping such highbodied Centrals in relatively low water level? Everytime I read explanations for the advice saying that they should not be kept in such tanks, is that "they don't look good there", but nothing else.
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Re: Vieja melanura aquarium (photo session)

Post by Lee Nuttall » Sat Sep 01, 2012 2:46 pm

I still keep many different cichlids, however this is only one particular tank that is dedicated to a spawning pair. Species or community tanks are both appealing if you can safely maintain them and I'm lucky enough to have the choice of both. :D

A lightly stocked tank showing a nice aquascape will always look better on photos, but as you know from my work, I chop and change a lot, especially for different photo opportunities.

As far as keeping large cichlids in low water levels, I don't know as these fish were always maintained in deep water, I would imagine that it would be better growing large fish in deeper tanks as opposed to shallow tanks. The photos purely illustrate an aquascaping idea to whom it may interest? :) Of interest, the water level in the photo is 19" / 48cm deep.

Future plans for the tank is to keep the dropped water level, but implement an aquascape above as well as below, a little like a riparium. This tank will have smaller species like Cryptoheros or Thorichthys. I'm done with larger centrals for a little while at least. :lol:

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Re: Vieja melanura aquarium (photo session)

Post by smitty » Sat Sep 01, 2012 10:05 pm

Lee how many tanks do you have running and what filtration do you use.
150gal- Dovi's; 3 AC 110 P.Filters; 2 AC 110 P.Heads; Eheim 2217,2260
180gal- Managuense; 3 AC 110 P.Filters; 2 AC 110 P.Heads; Eheim 2217,2260; FX5
210gal- Argta,Bifsct,Fnstrtus,Maculcda,Regani,Syns,Zntus; 4 AC P.Filters; 2 AC P.Hds; Eheim 2250,2262; FX5

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Re: Vieja melanura aquarium (photo session)

Post by stiff » Mon Sep 03, 2012 6:25 am

Great shots & fish..!

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Re: Vieja melanura aquarium (photo session)

Post by Alden » Mon Sep 03, 2012 7:55 am

Lee,

Thank you for displaying such wonderful pictures over the years of large growing centrals. They have been a source of inspiration for me. I look forward to seeing your displays of the smaller centrals!

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Re: Vieja melanura aquarium (photo session)

Post by Lee Nuttall » Tue Sep 04, 2012 6:11 am

@smitty, I have two large display tanks and a few other tanks ranging from small to medium size. All individually filtered with either external filters or filter behind the background method.

Thanks stiff. :)

@Alden, no problem, happy to share some photos and hopefully give a little inspiration when setting up a display tank.

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Post by Alex Odesit » Wed Sep 05, 2012 1:25 pm

Perfect Lee.
Beautiful fish and nice set up. What would be "something else" for this tank? What you dreaming off? 8)

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Re: Vieja melanura aquarium (photo session)

Post by Alex Odesit » Wed Sep 05, 2012 1:38 pm

Piotr Koba wrote: And one more thing - what is your experience in keeping such highbodied Centrals in relatively low water level? Everytime I read explanations for the advice saying that they should not be kept in such tanks, is that "they don't look good there", but nothing else.
Hi Piotr,
I went to numerous Cenote's in Rivera Maya (Mexico), some of them deep and some is really shallow, even hard to swim without hitting the bottom out there. Huge colonies of large, high bodied Mayan cichlids prosper in some of these very shallow places with 40-50 cm deep. I don't know if this is the period of the year when cenote dry out, but I can imagine that even at the time when water body level low, fish can find deeper places, but they prefer to stay in shallow area.
Just my 2 cents:)
Alex

p.s. Like for example this picture, not really high body fish (Rocio), but just to have an idea of how deep is these places:
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/6681/rociomale.jpg

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Re: Vieja melanura aquarium (photo session)

Post by Piotr Koba » Wed Sep 05, 2012 3:30 pm

Thanks for your valuable input Alex! That explains something. No, I'm not gonna keep full-grown Viejas in a 40cm tall tank, but it seems to me that there's no real necessity for building a 60+ cm tall aquarium (as far as it won't be full with adult fish of the largest species, ofcourse).

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Sorry for the OT, Lee. :)
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Re: Vieja melanura aquarium (photo session)

Post by Bas Pels » Thu Sep 06, 2012 1:39 am

Piotr Koba wrote:Thanks for your valuable input Alex! That explains something. No, I'm not gonna keep full-grown Viejas in a 40cm tall tank, but it seems to me that there's no real necessity for building a 60+ cm tall aquarium (as far as it won't be full with adult fish of the largest species, ofcourse).

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Sorry for the OT, Lee. :)
I got 1 tank which is 70 cm high - thus ~60 cm water. The others are 50 or 60 cm high

Interestingly, in the high tank, fishes can swim above the territories. A higher waterlevel does, therefore have advantages

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