Honduras Parachromis

[Ken Davis]

Since Juan has recently moved the La Ceiba yellow head Parachromis from possibly being a loiselli to possible being a fredrichstalli I thought I throw some pics out from our last few trips, I really believe there are more species of Parachromis yet to be discribed just in Honduras including the La Ceiba fish.

[Ken Davis]

Now some fish we caught in the Moskito coast area, a series of fish from one small stream, at least 4, maybe 5 species all at the same location. These fish were all caught in the exact same spot!

[Ken Davis]

Now a few huge white managunese from the Rio Rappa, Moskito

[Ken Davis]

Best use of huge managunse in the field

[saltydog_1]

very nice! are any of these being grown out to see how they develop? i really like the white managuense, how did they taste?

jeff beck

[Ken Davis]

Unforunantly it was over 100F each day and we lost most of the fish we caught last year in the Moskito coast. The first group of fish (Moto, man,yellow head and dovii are all in the hobby now). We plan to go back in May, especially for the green Parachromis. Got to get that fish! Ken

[saltydog_1]

good luck, i hope you get them. what other fish do you expect to collect in the area?

[Alex Odesit]

Ken, thanks for sharing the pictures, I really enjoy to see all of these Parachromis, most of them unfamiliar!
Looking careful at the first picture, it reminds me so much my new Moto in his coloration. Are red tiger Moto's so much alike in coloration or it's possible that my guy is related to the fish you brought last year from Honduras? Here the link to my thread:
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=5432


Alex

[Ken Davis]

Hi Alex, if it came from Eddie (Bluegrass cichlids) or Mo (via Rapps) yes it'll be realted. Ken

[Alex Odesit]

Hi Alex, if it came from Eddie (Bluegrass cichlids) or Mo (via Rapps) yes it'll be realted. Ken

Got my answer, thanks for reply Ken

[Rick Thibert]

That "Green Parachromis" looks stunning! I can understand your need (or want) to go back and get some! STUNNING! Love the dappling from the operculum forward!

BC

[Ken Davis]

Resized the picture to make it a little bigger. We're not even sure what species it may be. cf Loiselli??

[Alex Odesit]

Resized the picture to make it a little bigger. We're not even sure what species it may be. cf Loiselli??

Looks more sp Fredy to me

[Dan Woodland]

Before everyone starts classifying these fish as new species remember these areas were visited and collected expensively in the past. Chances are these fish have all been in the hobby for quite some time or are simply color variants or the result of different foods available in their natural ranges. Also keep in mind these fish, most of them, live in turbulent weather locations where hurricanes and flooding have moved animals to and from areas they normally would not be found. Regarding color morphs look at the "green form" of exC. istlantum. It turned out to be a result of the abundance of green algae they ate as a result of "farming" run-off. Has anyone been able to duplicate their deep emerald green “natural” color in the aquarium?

This doesn’t take away from the fact these are all very nice fish or the excitement surrounding them were they may be a new strain or even a new species, we just have to remember not to forget history as we may simply have found what’s already been….

[Death Angel]

Very nice. I have to have this fish

[Alex Odesit]

I agree, I should not rush to say 'sp' yet, but it does resembles Parachromis friedrichsthalii to me.

[chc]

Before everyone starts classifying these fish as new species remember these areas were visited and collected expensively in the past. Chances are these fish have all been in the hobby for quite some time or are simply color variants or the result of different foods available in their natural ranges. Also keep in mind these fish, most of them, live in turbulent weather locations where hurricanes and flooding have moved animals to and from areas they normally would not be found. Regarding color morphs look at the "green form" of exC. istlantum. It turned out to be a result of the abundance of green algae they ate as a result of "farming" run-off. Has anyone been able to duplicate their deep emerald green “natural” color in the aquarium?

This doesn’t take away from the fact these are all very nice fish or the excitement surrounding them were they may be a new strain or even a new species, we just have to remember not to forget history as we may simply have found what’s already been….

Good post! The species question is always difficult.

I appreciate that Ken and the others are keeping them separated as races or whatever you want to call them. I couldn't care less if they get designated as new species or just races. The bottom line is they are gorgeous and interesting fish. That La Ceiba fish is HOT! Thanks to all of you guys who helped bring them in!

Hey Dan, regarding the green istlanum, are you speaking of the race that was represented (and won a few awards) at the ACA a few years ago? That was a distinctly green fish, and I've been chasing that fish ever since I saw him there!

[Dan Woodland]

If you mean this fish, yes but I don't think the one in the show looked like this.

[chc]

Great pic Dan........ Here's the one I was talking about (thanks Chris P!). ACA Convention 2003:

[Alex Odesit]

Chris, this Islantum is some serious fish! Beautiful clean specimen! Mean looking too