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Re: some interesting news

Post by Mark Smith » Tue Sep 09, 2008 4:56 pm

I couldn't agree more with Philippe. Yes, he has done a lot of interesting things in the hobby, but he has also been less than honest. I do remember that Dr. Axelrod sued him years ago for having stolen many photos from TFH in order to put into his never materializing "Heiko Atlas". I remember seeing some of the proofs of Heikos atlas, and even paid for an advanced copy of this atlas (and, have never been given a refund, by the way) at a convention years ago, with some of TFH's images in them.

I also sold him photos of fish many, many years ago, and after bugging him for some time with the help of Dr. Axelrod, he begrudginly paid for them, and since then, I have not had them returned to me.

Its too bad that he lack integrity, and this situation with Brazil is not surprising at the least.

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Re: some interesting news

Post by Klaus Steinhaus » Tue Sep 09, 2008 6:58 pm

Can we move on PLEASE, the man does not need any more publicity.

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Re: some interesting news

Post by Dan Woodland » Tue Sep 09, 2008 8:37 pm

What goes around comes around. Good reputations are very difficult to build and maintain and VERY easy to loose.

Even though some feel enough has been said everyone should pay attention and do the right thing when you're presented with temptation. Going through proper channels isn't that difficult especially if one has done as much as has been previously pointed out.

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Re: some interesting news

Post by Mark Smith » Tue Sep 09, 2008 9:51 pm

Quite true, Dan.

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Re: some interesting news

Post by Heiko Bleher » Thu Sep 18, 2008 2:14 am

Hi,

this is Heiko Bleher and i cannot believe what Mark Smith is saying here, those unbelievable lies.

First of all I want to tell you all, that I am writing up the entire story what exactly happened in Manaus in detail, one can read it (or not) in a few days on
www.aquapress-bleher.com
the newspaper clips and comments are already there with the false and/or twisted accusations.

But I must tell here the following, because of Mark Smith' false accusations:
1. Axelrod stole all photos (over 8000) from me and from the photographers worldwide, and NEVER me a single one from him!
In Singapore he stole about 5000 the color separations (to print) in addition I personally delivered to him more than 3000 photos on July 14th 1988 (Dieter Vogt, the former editor of DATZ, was with me). for all these photos he NEVER paid the copyright to the photographers, but wrote to them lies about me in order to avoid paying. (I can show anyone interested the 14 thick files of court cases he made against me, his false allegations and lies.) And he did this with more than 100 photographers around the world (those i was able to interview and count). He lied and cheated people all his live, to the IRS, the Smithonian Institution, the New Jersey Symphony orchestra and Central Garden (to the company he sold TFH over-priced), just to name a few big ones. These are all very well known facts, also that he had to spend 18 month in prison and had to pay 49 million dollars to the IRS, Central Garden and others before they let him go back to Switzerland where he lives now a miserable end of his life in an apartment with an Austrian passport.

2. I had an written agreement with Axelrod to do a correct book (as in his Atlas's there were more wrong names than correct ones) with me as senior author called The Reference Book, on which I worked for 3 consecutive years (1985-1988) without getting a single penny from Axelrod or TFH. When I delivered the book and those mentioned photos in July 1988 it was to be printed before end of that year, but because I was to be the senior author (as he had done nothing at all, was only to print it), he changed his mind in September 1988, did NOT wanted to print the book and said "it would cost 100 dollars to the public and TFH will never sell such an expensive book..." and "all the photos you supplied will go to my Atlas's an, and I will add 500 each year and sell 50,000 every year anew...". here i was 3 years of work for nothing and he had all the photos and never paid for them I didn't mind my photo-rights, but those from the other photographers who had given them to me... I ended up paying for many of the photos he used out of my pocket although I did not have the photos and never used them... He never paid, also none of mine, at least 3000 or more, which he used year after year in all of his publications, mostly writing below "Photo by Dr. Axelrod" and the wrong species name...

3. He told me in September 1988 I should do the book I had worked on myself or with H. Beansch or anyone else. So I found distributors and presented a dummy at AQUARAMA 1989 aclled: BLEHER and I had orders for 21,000 copies. As he saw this (because we both had been invited for talks in Singapore), he flew back to New Jersey and swore under ought inn the Trenton court that I had stolen out of his pocket 50,000 dollars and copied his books. The judge gave him a restraining order against the distribution of my book in the US and he used it around the world.

4. From that moment on he sued me and lied in courts all over the world, in Singapore, Paris, Frankfurt, but knowing that his lies cannot last and that I would be able to prove it, he pribed the people of Scantrans in Singapore to get my almost 7000 color separations i had done to print my book and they gave those to him, which made it impossible for me to print and sell my book elsewhere, even once the court order was lifted, as it would take another year and I had not the originals...

5. From than on I was more in American courts and elsewhere than doing collecting and research or a book. He made one false allegation after the next. And to make a already long story short, he swore under ought "Bleher is doing a Reference Book of fishes, which I wanted to do all my life and have invested 2.5 million dollars in that project, but because he is doing it i cannot do it as there is no market for two such books..." This was several year later... and I never have done my book. But I will do it that i promise:
http://www.aquapress-bleher.com/index.p ... &Itemid=44
only 100times better than 20 years ago...

6. The company who was to sell my book (UK based) has, as I heard from some, pre-sold some copies (in 1989) and than could not deliver as Axelrod sued them also in the UK and they went bankrupt. I NEVER RECEIVED OR HAVE EVER TAKEN ANY MONEY FROM ANYONE FOR MY BOOK. Not me, those are lies as well.

This just in (very) short to clarify Mark Smith lies, and anyone can ask Ross Socolof, Allan Levey or Glen Axelrod, also Rosario Lacorte, Rolf C. Hagen and others, they all know it very well this story – in detail – but not Mark Smith.

And last but not least, the only thing correct and true is: "what goes around comes around" and it happened to Dr H.R. Axelrod (for me unfortunately to late), because he cheated and lied all his life (that is how he made millions). He never collected a single fish, the cardinal tetra he bought in New jersey' Rainbow Garden (but still claiming he collected it in Degen's recent book, although his first visit to Manaus was in 1959...

Best regards

Heiko Bleher
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Re: some interesting news

Post by Bas Pels » Thu Sep 18, 2008 5:15 am

Mark claims Heiko did not pay for certain pictures he used

Heiko tries to defend mhimself by blaiming Axelrod for certain similar things

did I miss something, or is Heiko v Axelrod of no relvance for Smith v Heiko?

Anyway, we have a saying, if you mess with tarr, you will get tarry. I get the feeling it is appropriate here

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Re: some interesting news

Post by Mark Smith » Thu Sep 18, 2008 8:55 am

Quite true Bas Pels

"Mark claims Heiko did not pay for certain pictures he used"

Heiko did pay me after Dr. Axelrod had his lawyers go after him for $2,000,000 for his theft of TFH photos. I had originally sold 18 of my photos for Heikos "axlas" only. Heiko even called me up one evening while I was living in Trenton, New Jersey quite upset, and then sent me payment for 18 of my photos of various African cichlids. I have still not yet gotten these photos back, and this has been over 15 years. I do remember seeing one of my images published in his magazine, Aqua Geo, of Lepidiolamprologus elongatus, and the photo credit was given as Ad Konings. I also saw some of my photos sold to Heiko published in an issue of the German Cichlid Associations monthly bulletin, of one of my Victorian cichlids - Rock Kribensis, as well as a couple of my Tanganyikan cichlid photos published in one of the French Cichlid Associations publications too.

Heiko - are you ever going to return my 18 photographs to me??

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Re: some interesting news

Post by Philippe Burnel » Thu Sep 18, 2008 9:31 am

I'll not speak about the problem of copyright on pictures the French Cichlid Association had when we've got the pictures from Bleher to make our "Atlas des Cichlidés" in the biginning of the 90's.
I was in charge of this problem in that time....

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Post by Ken Boorman » Thu Sep 18, 2008 9:33 am

Mark Smith wrote:Quite true Bas Pels

"Mark claims Heiko did not pay for certain pictures he used"

Heiko did pay me after Dr. Axelrod had his lawyers go after him for $2,000,000 for his theft of TFH photos. I had originally sold 18 of my photos for Heikos "axlas" only. Heiko even called me up one evening while I was living in Trenton, New Jersey quite upset, and then sent me payment for 18 of my photos of various African cichlids. I have still not yet gotten these photos back, and this has been over 15 years. I do remember seeing one of my images published in his magazine, Aqua Geo, of Lepidiolamprologus elongatus, and the photo credit was given as Ad Konings. I also saw some of my photos sold to Heiko published in an issue of the German Cichlid Associations monthly bulletin, of one of my Victorian cichlids - Rock Kribensis, as well as a couple of my Tanganyikan cichlid photos published in one of the French Cichlid Associations publications too.

Heiko - are you ever going to return my 18 photographs to me??
Why would Heiko have to return your pics if he paid for them, Mark?

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Re: some interesting news

Post by Lisachromis » Thu Sep 18, 2008 9:39 am

Can we please keep the to the original topic here?

As interesting or exciting as this could get, it'll get to the point of angry feelings and words that cannot be taken back. I would like to NOT have to moderate this thread in any way.

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Re: some interesting news

Post by Mark Smith » Thu Sep 18, 2008 9:45 am

Hi Ken

Original pictures (slides, in this case) by photographers are always returned. Today, that would be a moot point if one was dealing with digital images.

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Re: some interesting news

Post by Ken Boorman » Thu Sep 18, 2008 9:47 am

Thanks for clarifying that Mark. As I understand it though, Heiko is still intending on publishing that book. Is there an implied time-limit for these things?

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Post by Juan Artigas » Thu Sep 18, 2008 9:53 am

Mark Smith wrote:Original pictures (slides, in this case) by photographers are always returned. Today, that would be a moot point if one was dealing with digital images.
Absolutely, what you normally pay for is the license to use the image, not for the image itself. The images have to be returned. Image ownership would have to be an "all rights" signed agreement or a work done under the payment of the photographer's employer. In one occasion, Aubudon society bought one of my pictures and insisted, against my petition and with a high cost for them, to return a CD I sent with a copy of the digital image. After I received it went straight to the garbage, but they got my signature I got it back.

Anyways, I know I am coming out of topic. I am glad Heiko is out and fine and being as controversial as always.
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Re: some interesting news

Post by Mark Smith » Thu Sep 18, 2008 10:23 am

Ken

One of the problems with my slides still in Heikos posession, after 15 years, is that he has given some of them to use in French and German publications, all without my permission.

Also, with todays technology, such slides could have been scanned and original slides returned, which is what virtually all reputable publishers do today when dealing with slides.

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Re: some interesting news

Post by Paulo José Alves » Fri Sep 19, 2008 5:12 am

Hi


The contribution of Heiko Bleher to the aquarium world is tremendous and I´m glad he´s out of those unbeliavable brasilian prisons specially so being the case of he being inocent.
What Axelrod did to him is really no secret, the story of what happened has been around in Europe for years in the milieu of serious aquarists. The first time I heard it I couldn´t believe it, it had been really evil what Heiko had to endure.
I hope that his book comes out, it will certainly be a great contribution to our hobby, I´ll buy it!
Heiko, if you return to Portugal I hope to meet you then, cheers!


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Post by Juan Artigas » Fri Sep 19, 2008 8:11 am

Paulo José Alves wrote:I´m glad he´s out of those unbeliavable brasilian prisons specially so being the case of he being inocent
I guess to stay out of those unbelievable Brazilian prisons you should not break the Brazilian law. You see, the man is controversial. I will wait a reasonable time to see if Heiko wants to reply to Mark's question or make to the point comments and then I will ask our gracious administrator to consider locking this topic, as I guess not much more has to be said and we don't want adjectives to start poping up here as she predicts.
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Post by Dean Hougen » Fri Sep 19, 2008 10:38 pm

Juan Artigas wrote:I guess to stay out of those unbelievable Brazilian prisons you should not break the Brazilian law. ...
Many innocent people are accused. Some innocent people are even convicted. This is true everywhere in the world, not just Brazil.


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Re: some interesting news

Post by Bas Pels » Sat Sep 20, 2008 1:45 am

Would it not be a good idea to avoid countries where you fear of being arrested wrongly?

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Re: some interesting news

Post by Felipe Cantera » Sat Sep 20, 2008 11:44 am

Hmmm....I did not know that the brasilian prison was the point of this topic?, and I did not know that the "quality" of a prison have something to do with colleting without permit?
I realy dont think that the "unbeliavable" here is the brasilian prison or law....I think the most unbeliavable here, is that with all cards on the table, we still continue to discuss this topic.

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Post by Dean Hougen » Sat Sep 20, 2008 9:29 pm

Bas Pels wrote:Would it not be a good idea to avoid countries where you fear of being arrested wrongly?
But what if you have good reasons for visiting these countries?

The Bush administration in the USA has figured out a fix for this problem. They kidnap people from around the world and take them to unbelievable prisons. Now you have to be afraid of being arrested wrongly wherever you are, so you might as well go were you want to go.

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