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Setting up a Lake Tanganyika tank

Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 8:54 pm
by Stevenht
I got a 46 bow front that I got some Texas Holey Rock in and got some shells coming in on tuesday. I need stocking help. I would like to keep a couple different species in the tank. Can somebody give me an idea of stocking and what rock or shell dwellers won't go good in my tank. I'm not worried about big cichlids at all and only the smaller varieties.

Re: Setting up a Lake Tanganyika tank

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2018 6:45 am
by bdmminer
So for your shells you have a couple options, I like Neolamprologus (exLamprologus) Brevis or Multifasciatus, they are both tough with larger fish and will mostly stay near the shells. If you can find them, Altolamprologus sp. "compressiceps shell" (sometimes called Sumbu Dwarf) is another option, they will leave the shells a little more than the first two, and again are fairly tough little fish. Also if you wanted to put multiple shell territories in the tank you could probably keep the Sumbu dwarfs and either the Brevis or the Multi's.

Now onto the rock, I would pick some sort of Julidochromis, Neolamp. cylindricus, or Paracyprichromis nigripinnis but not all three. An issue you may face with the Julies and the Neolamp. is that when they pair off they will start becoming aggressive and may kill other fish in the tank. Out of the three that I said I would go with the nigripinnis, they are fairly peaceful and are a really pretty fish.

Then depending on if you have a decent amount of open water above the rocks or not I would put in a group of cyprichromis, there is a rainbow of different colors when it comes to them and they are an open water swimmer that is really neat to watch when in a group of 6 or more.

When I set up a smaller Tanganyikan tank for show I always steer clear of a couple of species: N. Pulcher is one, because they will find a place, even if it is in the corner of the tank and start breeding, and because they are good parents before long the whole tank will be pulchers. Any feather fin (Ophthalmotilapia, Cyathopharynx, ect.) is not a good idea because they need much more room and usually only thrive in a species only tank. Lastly Lepidiolamprologus, they get big and get mean so for a small tank that is a no go.

I realize this is a lengthy post for a stocking question, but I wanted to make sure you knew why I chose what I picked. Good luck and be sure to post some pictures when it is all done.

Re: Setting up a Lake Tanganyika tank

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2018 8:43 am
by Stevenht
Thanks. Your the only person on the last 3 forums I'm a part of that answered my question thoroughly and not a half a$$ answer.

I'm going to get them from Dave's rare aquarium fish.

He has altolamprologus compressiceps kasanga gold head
Altolamprologus compressiceps mbita island red fin

For shellies he has
Multis
Caudopunctatus
Brevis

Rock dwellers
Julidochromis marlieri magara
Julidochromis marlieri gombe
Julidochromis regani
Neolamp leleupi
Brichardis
And trets

He has more than what's on the website right now. I just have to ask

Re: Setting up a Lake Tanganyika tank

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2018 10:52 am
by bdmminer
I would personally go with the multis or brevis. Brevis get a little bit bigger but have about the same temperment. I have not kept caudopunctatus before so I couldn't recommend something I haven't kept.

Either of the compressiceps I wouldn't buy because although they grow slow they may try to prey on the shellies when they get big, or any shellie fry you may have.

On the rock dwellers, the maleri and the leleupi would most likely get along fine as long as there is a decent amount of rock. I would get ~6 of each to start because as they get bigger they will want to pick territories and having alot of them will mitigate that and if you do lose a couple to bickering, or you decide to pull the paired couples out to breed, you will still have some in the tank.

Like I said, stay away from Brichardi they breed faster than convicts in my opinion. The Newport Aquarium put some in their ~600 gallon Tang. tank and they bred so much they put fronts in there to eat them... well guess who is at the top of the tank and not eating any brichardi? Lastly, I have kept trets but I am not a fan of them as in my experience they get mean as they get older.

Re: Setting up a Lake Tanganyika tank

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2018 1:04 pm
by Stevenht
If I could get this guy to call me back, I could order some. Kinda upset me that he said he would call me back and nothing.

Anywho, I'm getting x5 Multi's and x5 Juli Magara's to start off. I do like the cyprichromis and I do have plenty of swimming space at the top. Only good thing this 46 bowfront has is, it's tall. Soon, I'm getting a 50 lowboy tank just for shellies and hopefully can get more rock work for the 46 bow front to basically convert it to a rock dweller tank.

How many total fish do you think I can fit in here? Being that I'm going to start with 10. I can get more rock work no problems and I can always make homemade caves out of Terra Cotta or something simple and inexpensive. I really like leleupi's because of the color.

Re: Setting up a Lake Tanganyika tank

Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 6:29 am
by bdmminer
That sounds like a good mix, and should turn out to be a good looking tank. To determine stocking number that really depends on the amount of filtration that you have because Tangs prefer very clean water, not saying that you don't keep clean water but as you add more fish your filtration may have to be bumped up as well.

Re: Setting up a Lake Tanganyika tank

Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 7:57 am
by Stevenht
I got one aqua clear 70 right now. Will probably buy another aoon

Re: Setting up a Lake Tanganyika tank

Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 9:44 am
by bdmminer
For the stock load you are putting in the tank one aquaclear should be good and you would be able to maybe put in another 5 fish. As they get larger the bioload will increase and then you may need to add another filter, but for now it should be enough.

Re: Setting up a Lake Tanganyika tank

Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2018 8:09 pm
by Stevenht
What other Tangs could I add? A group of cyprichromis?

Re: Setting up a Lake Tanganyika tank

Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2018 7:39 pm
by Jorsay
I think my post didn't belong here, so I deleted it and started my own thread.

Re: Setting up a Lake Tanganyika tank

Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2018 7:43 pm
by Jorsay
Stevenht,

I like the transcriptus instead of the marlieri. They are smaller, and I think better looking.

The multis are my favorite shellys after similis.

I love cyps. I think that would be a nice addition to what you are doing.