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Post by legion94kbmp » Sun Oct 02, 2016 12:24 pm

Hello all. I have an problem with my satanopercas and altifrons.
Satanoperca jurupari or leucosticta ? bought as leucosticta but looking like jurupari.
And the next id problem.. imo altifrons but which river ? not too early for opinion?
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Post by legion94kbmp » Thu Oct 06, 2016 1:36 pm

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Post by christian333r » Tue Oct 11, 2016 12:41 am

Satanoperca leucosticta is not. They (S. leucosticta) have blue spots below the dorsal fin.

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Post by Darrell Ullisch » Tue Oct 11, 2016 10:38 am

I would not place the Geophagus in the altifrons complex due to the large size of the flank spot, which is rather faded on this individual but still much larger than would be found on any altifrons. Someone may be able to ID from these photos, but I'm not that good. I think it needs to mature a year or so first.
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Post by Bas Pels » Tue Oct 11, 2016 1:16 pm

Almostr all Amazonian Geophagus are sold as altifrons, which they often are NOT

Something is saying G megasema to me, but most likely it is another species.


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Post by JeremyBasch » Fri Nov 04, 2016 7:21 am

The spot on the side is too large to be G. altifrons but too small to be G. megasema. In this case, the Geophagus is likely G. abalios.

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Post by legion94kbmp » Sat Nov 12, 2016 3:48 am

Isnt it surinamensis for sure? Bought it as surinamensis

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Post by papasmurf » Sat Nov 26, 2016 9:02 am

The fish you show looks to be G. Abalios....a majority of the time when fish are labeled as "G. Surinamensis" they turn out to be Abalios or sometimes an Altrifons type but like someone mentioned, the spot on the side is too large for an altifrons type of fish. There are no noticeable pre-opercular markings on the fish in question so you can rule out winemilleri, dicrozoster, proximus, brachybranchus, and several others. The tail striping and to a lesser extent the vertical barring will help you narrow down what species it is when it matures.

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Post by DRE » Wed Jan 11, 2017 7:50 am

These definitely look like altifrons withe small flank spot
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Post by legion94kbmp » Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:03 am

Yes.. I know that it is altifrons but which river ? Curua ?

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Post by dev » Sun Mar 26, 2017 1:57 pm

once catch location is lost its just a guessing game.which is why its important to keep/pass it on.

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