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More new cichlids to ID

Post by Hudson Ensz » Thu Dec 16, 2010 1:19 pm

Just a few confirmations
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Satanoperca sp.
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Re: More new cichlids to ID

Post by Hudson Ensz » Thu Dec 16, 2010 1:28 pm

Sorry i didnt post better pictures of the notopthalmus
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Re: More new cichlids to ID

Post by Philippe Burnel » Thu Dec 16, 2010 1:45 pm

The 2nd one is probably a Laetacara tayeri
The 3rd a Satanoperca (but impossible to name the sp)

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Re: More new cichlids to ID

Post by cichla » Thu Dec 16, 2010 2:00 pm

Yes, I agree with Philpppe. The 2nd is Laetacara thayeri.

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Re: More new cichlids to ID

Post by Piotr Koba » Thu Dec 16, 2010 3:32 pm

Hudson Ensz wrote:Sorry i didnt post better pictures of the notopthalmus
Have you found any males? I've read they often live in small schools that consist mostly of members one sex. So only females or only males.
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Re: More new cichlids to ID

Post by Bas Pels » Fri Dec 17, 2010 1:50 am

I don't think your 'keyhole' is a Cleithacara.

Firstly, this species is fom the Guyana shield - while yopu are in Manaus
Secondly, more important, the fish looks wriong for Cleithacara.

I think it's a Aequidens, perhaps tetramerus. But I'm not really knowledgable in Aequidens

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Re: More new cichlids to ID

Post by Philippe Burnel » Fri Dec 17, 2010 4:06 am

Bas Pels wrote:I don't think your 'keyhole' is a Cleithacara.

Firstly, this species is fom the Guyana shield - while yopu are in Manaus
Secondly, more important, the fish looks wriong for Cleithacara.

I think it's a Aequidens, perhaps tetramerus. But I'm not really knowledgable in Aequidens

Bas..... Laetacara thayeri....

http://burnel.perso.neuf.fr/Photos/Laet ... ayeri.html

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Re: More new cichlids to ID

Post by Bas Pels » Fri Dec 17, 2010 7:23 am

Oops

but it is not a keyhole, and I admitted Aequidens is not may best part

Still I feel a bit ashamed :oops:

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Re: More new cichlids to ID

Post by Hudson Ensz » Fri Dec 17, 2010 12:21 pm

Thanks you all! No, unfortunately i did not catch any males, just one lone female.
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Re: More new cichlids to ID

Post by Hudson Ensz » Fri Dec 17, 2010 12:25 pm

I was hoping this guy would turn out as Cr. notopthalmus but it looks like its just regani
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Re: More new cichlids to ID

Post by Darrell Ullisch » Fri Dec 17, 2010 1:39 pm

The little fry is not a Hypselacara, best guess would be Caquetaia species, though I'm not familiar enough with any of those to identify the species from the fry pattern.
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Re: More new cichlids to ID

Post by Hudson Ensz » Sun Dec 19, 2010 4:17 pm

Darrel, i have to disagree regarding the hypselecara. The fry constantly change shades but at their lightest they are a medium brown with a single rectangular black marking on its shoulder. it is also very prone to hiding by leaves in that head tilted up position. Correct me if i am wrong though i am deffinately not good at IDs :D
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Re: More new cichlids to ID

Post by Darrell Ullisch » Sun Dec 19, 2010 6:02 pm

I've seen Hypselacara fry, they have a single horizontal line, not a vertically barred color pattern. I'm pretty sure that the difference will eventually show itself as he grows. Just bear in mind, if I'm right he's going to eat much larger food items than a Hypselacara fry would!

Hiding is common to all fry, and the head up position is typical for an ambush predator. It could be another predatory fish, but it's certainly not a Hypselacara. Trust me.
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Re: More new cichlids to ID

Post by Hudson Ensz » Mon Dec 20, 2010 5:46 pm

Darrell Ullisch wrote:I've seen Hypselacara fry, they have a single horizontal line, not a vertically barred color pattern. I'm pretty sure that the difference will eventually show itself as he grows. Just bear in mind, if I'm right he's going to eat much larger food items than a Hypselacara fry would!

Hiding is common to all fry, and the head up position is typical for an ambush predator. It could be another predatory fish, but it's certainly not a Hypselacara. Trust me.
Yes sir! I believe you. As it grows it will become painfully apparent how misataken i was I am sure! :D
Now about figuring out what it is!
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Re: More new cichlids to ID

Post by coelacanth » Tue Dec 21, 2010 7:38 am

Hudson Ensz wrote: Now about figuring out what it is!
Looks like a young Acaronia to me.

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Re: More new cichlids to ID

Post by Hudson Ensz » Tue Dec 21, 2010 8:42 am

A few new pics.
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Satanoperca sp. (probably jurupari)
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Unidentified juvi
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A agassizii?
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Taeniacara candidi
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