Please help ID new acaras, pike and Geo

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Hudson Ensz
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Please help ID new acaras, pike and Geo

Post by Hudson Ensz » Sat Dec 04, 2010 8:03 pm

I caught the acaras in a small stream i am completely at a loss as to what some of them are btw, in the S/A forum there is 7000 posts now!!! :shock:
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Re: Please help ID new acaras, pike and Geo

Post by Hudson Ensz » Sat Dec 04, 2010 8:19 pm

A few more pike pics
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Re: Please help ID new acaras, pike and Geo

Post by Piotr Koba » Sun Dec 05, 2010 4:23 am

Those Geophagus are very very young, but at least one of them has already developed that typical, small, black blotch on its cheek. I'd say G. winemilleri?

About Acara - My type is Krobia species. I think for Specialists here catch location would be very helpful.

About Crenicichla - saxatilis group for sure, bout I'm not good at Crenicichla groupings at all.

BTW, very nice regani female - have you ever seen/caught C. notophthalmus in the area?
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Re: Please help ID new acaras, pike and Geo

Post by cichla » Sun Dec 05, 2010 6:24 am

I would say the 'Acara' is a Bujurquina.

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Re: Please help ID new acaras, pike and Geo

Post by Hudson Ensz » Sun Dec 05, 2010 11:51 am

Thanks Piotr! i havent looked at Kobias. i caught them in manaus look here for pics of the fishing trip, http://passionate4pikes.wordpress.com/2 ... mber-13th/. For more trips look here, passiopnate4pikes.wordpress.com.
No unfortunately i have not caught any C. notopthalmus (its not from lack of trying though).
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A. sp. abacaxi, A. agassizii, A. gibbiceps (2 strains), A. pertensis(?), A. pacisquamis, A. sp, A. hippolytae.

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Re: Please help ID new acaras, pike and Geo

Post by Hudson Ensz » Sun Dec 05, 2010 12:08 pm

The closest i could find to my "acara" is B. sp. zevallos, or apopuruana, judging from jeff rapps site.
They seem as common as gold dust, i cant find any info!
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Re: Please help ID new acaras, pike and Geo

Post by Marcus » Tue Dec 07, 2010 1:58 pm

I don't think the geo is winemilleri as winemilleri comes from Venezuela which is a far cry from Manaus, Brazil. That being said, the only other geo with the opercular mark that can be found in Manaus is G. proximus which this fish clearly is not. As Piotr mentioned, it is a very young fish yet. You may need to let it grow for a few months before a proper ID can be made.

Regarding the pike, the humeral spot is very high on the back. Most of the saxatilines carry this spot below the lateral line. Your fish's spot intersects it. I think there are only two species that carry this trait. C. alta & C. anthurus. Problem is, neither of these species are found in Manaus. They come from Guyana & Peru respectively. As with your Geo, the pike is also very young. I hate to say it but you'll need to grow it up for a few months so we have more identifying traits to ID it.
$200 is a lot of money for such a plain brown fish. It must be really rare. I'll take 4!!

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Re: Please help ID new acaras, pike and Geo

Post by Hudson Ensz » Tue Dec 07, 2010 3:35 pm

I am sorry i was so vague on the catch location. The Bijirquina, and port cichlid, came from manaus, but all the rest are from the tefe area i am sorry i did not mention that earlier!
Thank you Marcus!
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Tanks, 16gal, 8gal, 35gal, 200gal pond, T. candidi hospital tank 1 gal.
A. sp. abacaxi, A. agassizii, A. gibbiceps (2 strains), A. pertensis(?), A. pacisquamis, A. sp, A. hippolytae.

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Re: Please help ID new acaras, pike and Geo

Post by Marcus » Wed Dec 08, 2010 5:00 pm

Ahhh... that means almost assuredly that the pike is Cr. alta.
$200 is a lot of money for such a plain brown fish. It must be really rare. I'll take 4!!

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