Nandopsis tetracanthus

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Re: Nandopsis tetracanthus

Post by Alex Odesit » Mon Aug 20, 2007 2:54 pm

two month after, and Cuban keep growing fast. Around 6 " TL, very active, but his aggression level is lower then when I just got him. I still believe it's a boy :lol:
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Re: Nandopsis tetracanthus

Post by Rick Thibert » Mon Aug 20, 2007 3:39 pm

Prespawn courting:
Notice the lighter coloration in this video:
http://s127.photobucket.com/albums/p143 ... 0_1921.flv

Here's the same pair w/ fry:
http://s127.photobucket.com/albums/p143 ... 0_2320.flv

I thought this one was kinda cute:
http://s127.photobucket.com/albums/p143 ... 0_2010.flv

And here's one of those fry grown on a bit more:
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Re: Nandopsis tetracanthus

Post by Rick Thibert » Mon Aug 20, 2007 3:40 pm

Alex, I'd say your TC is a female with that prominent spot! ;)

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Re: Nandopsis tetracanthus

Post by Alex Odesit » Mon Aug 20, 2007 9:58 pm

Hey mate, thanks for the video!
How big and old is your Cuban? What you do with the fry? Don't tell me it's possible to make money off the hobby :lol:
As for my fish being female I still not sure, I did see some male with that you call "prominent spot". Also if you notice my fish have a larger and different head shape then your Tetracantus female. The spot on the side of my Cuban become less and less noticeable. Hmm, I don't know, I won't argue of course, I don't have much experience with Nandopsis Tetracanthus , first time having it.
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Re: Nandopsis tetracanthus

Post by Alex Odesit » Mon Oct 22, 2007 4:41 pm

@update. Cuban close to 7 " TL.
Not overly aggressive, back off from similarly sized JD female, and surprisingly enough love romaine lettuce and similar stuff. With predatory fish body shape, it seems funny:)
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Re: Nandopsis tetracanthus

Post by Dan Woodland » Mon Oct 22, 2007 8:58 pm

Funny story, I used to breed these in large colored buckets on my basement floor. At one time I had three breeding pairs going simultaneously. Almost everyone made fun of me until I pulled the filters to show each pair had hundreds of fry in a 2 foot diameters bucket.

These picture was before I was into photography but you get the idea.
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Re: Nandopsis tetracanthus

Post by Rick Thibert » Tue Oct 23, 2007 12:55 am

To me, that looks more like a female.......... the spot on the flank is indicative of this....... or at least this is how I've sexed them and it's never failed me! ;) Keep us posted!

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Re: Nandopsis tetracanthus

Post by Rick Thibert » Tue Oct 23, 2007 3:38 pm

Here's a video of my pair taken a year or so ago. Note the female is the one with the spot on the flank.

http://s127.photobucket.com/albums/p143 ... 0_1921.flv

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Re: Nandopsis tetracanthus

Post by Alex Odesit » Tue Oct 23, 2007 4:40 pm

[quote="Dan Woodland"]Funny story, I used to breed these in large colored buckets on my basement floor. At one time I had three breeding pairs going simultaneously. Almost everyone made fun of me until I pulled the filters to show each pair had hundreds of fry in a 2 foot diameters bucket.

These picture was before I was into photography but you get the idea.



Very nice Dan, healthy Cuban you had. Make some money too I guess, not very common fish specially before now days, 3 backets full of fry, mmm, sure thing you load some LFS for awhile :lol:

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Re: Nandopsis tetracanthus

Post by Alex Odesit » Tue Oct 23, 2007 4:50 pm

BIG_CICHLID wrote:Here's a video of my pair taken a year or so ago. Note the female is the one with the spot on the flank.


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BC, thanks for the video, nice fish, you still have them?
I think I agree with you on my Cuban gender, it does look female, get bulkier now too, prolly eggs.
What is the largest Tetracanthus you have seen? What size yours max out?

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Re: Nandopsis tetracanthus

Post by Dan Woodland » Tue Oct 23, 2007 7:12 pm

Alex Odesit wrote:
Dan Woodland wrote:Funny story, I used to breed these in large colored buckets on my basement floor. At one time I had three breeding pairs going simultaneously. Almost everyone made fun of me until I pulled the filters to show each pair had hundreds of fry in a 2 foot diameters bucket.

These picture was before I was into photography but you get the idea.



Very nice Dan, healthy Cuban you had. Make some money too I guess, not very common fish specially before now days, 3 backets full of fry, mmm, sure thing you load some LFS for awhile :lol:
Actually good thing for fish farms! :D

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Re: Nandopsis tetracanthus

Post by Rick Thibert » Wed Oct 24, 2007 9:29 am

Thanks Alex,

The largest male I've ever seen was 10". I've still got my pair. They are still growing. But at the moment I'd say the male is 7" and the female 5" or therabouts. Very shy fish! The only time they ever get brave is when they are with fry! This may be because I keep them on their own though! ;)

Nice TC's Dan! :) Any leads on beani in the US??

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Re: Nandopsis tetracanthus

Post by Alex Odesit » Wed Oct 24, 2007 10:25 pm

BIG_CICHLID wrote:Thanks Alex,

The largest male I've ever seen was 10". I've still got my pair. They are still growing. But at the moment I'd say the male is 7" and the female 5" or therabouts. Very shy fish! The only time they ever get brave is when they are with fry! This may be because I keep them on their own though! ;)

Nice TC's Dan! :) Any leads on beani in the US??

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My Cuban is quite nasty, she? was introduced in my 210 gallon tank somewhere in March 2007, less then 2" size. From that time she dominate every other fish except my large Jack Dempsei pair, JD male 8.5" TL, female around 7".
I have seen post here on Cichlidae.com several month ago with debating various species belongs to Nandopsis tetracanthus. All of the Cuban I have seen look similar to mine. Does any different one exist in the hobby?
And yeah BC, I see you really obsess with Beani, why is that? Just because it's uncommon species, or some other reason?:)

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Re: Nandopsis tetracanthus

Post by Rick Thibert » Thu Oct 25, 2007 12:39 am

Beani are just beautiful fish. Very much the sort of fish I like to keep for attitude and beauty. Add the fact that you can't have them......... makes you want them even more.

I've always seen them in books and a few pics of folks that have been fortunate enough to keep them! Just gorgeous! I'd like to keep them and attempt to make them more commonplace so that others can enjoy them as well.

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Re: Nandopsis tetracanthus

Post by Alex Odesit » Wed Jan 02, 2008 10:00 am

@UPDATE.
Cuban still growing fast, over 8" TL now, attitude also getting worse. If anyone around from US, NJ area 07410 like to buy it off my hands, we can work it out.
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Re: Nandopsis tetracanthus

Post by Alex Odesit » Mon Mar 03, 2008 4:43 pm

@update
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Re: Nandopsis tetracanthus

Post by Alex Odesit » Thu Oct 08, 2009 4:19 pm

@UPDATE.
Almost 10", seems slowing down allot. It's Ok with me. Tough, powerful, active fish. I believe it is a female. Interesting thing. While other, even larger tankmates can not chew/break the larger snails I throw in the water from time to time, this girl does it quick and easy.
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Re: Nandopsis tetracanthus

Post by Alex Odesit » Sat Sep 11, 2010 11:06 am

@ almost a year later after the last post:
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Re: Nandopsis tetracanthus

Post by jancibie » Sun Sep 12, 2010 12:20 am

beautiful male

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Re: Nandopsis tetracanthus

Post by Alex Odesit » Sun Sep 12, 2010 12:45 am

jancibie wrote:beautiful male
Thanks, but I think it is a female.

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