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Rio Monga, siquia or nigrofasciatus?

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 10:05 pm
by meksjoef
Hello,

Does anyone know, if the specimen found in the Monga is a siquia or nigrofasciatus?

This because of the article that Sam Borstein wrote, about the Honduran red point. He suggests that the "specimen" from the monga is a siquia (see quote and/or link),
Sam Borstein wrote:Distribution:
This fish is endemic to the Rio Danli in Honduras. A fish has been going around as Honduran Red Point "Rio Mongo". This fish is not a Honduran Red Point, but rather what most likely keys out to be a Amatitlania siquia from Schmitter-Soto's 2007 revision.
http://www.borstein.info/profiles/central/archhrp.html

The profile of the nigrofasciatus on the Cichlid Room, says it is a nigrofasciatus,
Localities: Buen Suceso (Nicaragua, native), Lago de Coatepeque (El Salvador, native), Lake Nicaragua (Nicaragua, native), Rio Monga (Honduras, native).
and image 4 of 4,
[sp[ female with her babies at Rio Monga, Aguán drainage, Saba [Honduras].
Photo by Rusty Wessel. (14-May-2005).
Determiner Juan Miguel Artigas Azas.
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Image 4 of 4
http://www.cichlidae.com/species.php?id ... le#content

Rio Monga,
http://www.cichlidae.com/locality.php?i ... es#content

Re: Rio Monga, siquia or nigrofasciatus?

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 7:19 am
by michi tobler
Our analyses have shown that - at least morphologically - the Rio Monga fish and similarly colored populations (e.g., from the Danli area) closely resemble A. siquia from Costa Rica and not A. nigrofasciata from geographically closer Honduran drainages (see figure). How all of these populations are related genetically remains an open question (although there should be data around somewhere).
Cheers, Michi

Re: Rio Monga, siquia or nigrofasciatus?

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 11:32 am
by dogofwar
Ironically, I was just looking into this as well!

Here are some great pictures (from when they were collected): http://forums.waterwolves.com/index.php ... pic=107809

Matt

Re: Rio Monga, siquia or nigrofasciatus?

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 10:59 pm
by meksjoef
Thats is some nice info Michi! Thanks :)