Sexing Herichthys Deppi

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KaaBee
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Sexing Herichthys Deppi

Post by KaaBee » Mon Jan 06, 2014 2:49 pm

Hello,

At this moment I have 4 Herichthys Deppis. I think that I have 2 males and 2 females. But I'm not sure.

Can anyone tell me what the visual differences are between a male Herichthys Deppi and a female?

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Re: Sexing Herichthys Deppi

Post by CA cichlid dude » Wed Jan 08, 2014 3:50 pm

Its hard to tell when they are young, but they fast growers in my experience. Males have a sloping forehead and I believe females have a blue/black blotch on the dorsal fin.

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Re: Sexing Herichthys Deppi

Post by KaaBee » Wed Jan 08, 2014 4:21 pm

Thanks.
The thing is, I have 2 fish that are lighter colored and have a sloping forehead. They also have few red dots at the head. Both fish have fins that end in a sharp point. The fish have an identical size and shape. One of these 2 fish has a black/blue blotch on the dorsal fin, but the other doesn't. These two fish are app. 8-9cm in total length.

2 other fish have no sloping forehead and are darker colored. These 2 also have the same size and shape. The red dots at the head are more. The fins end more in a rounded edge and not in a point. One of these 2 fish also has a blotch on the dorsal fin, but the other one doesn't. These 2 fish are 7cm in total length.

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Re: Sexing Herichthys Deppi

Post by CA cichlid dude » Thu Jan 09, 2014 7:28 pm

KaaBee wrote:Thanks.
The thing is, I have 2 fish that are lighter colored and have a sloping forehead. They also have few red dots at the head. Both fish have fins that end in a sharp point. The fish have an identical size and shape. One of these 2 fish has a black/blue blotch on the dorsal fin, but the other doesn't. These two fish are app. 8-9cm in total length.

2 other fish have no sloping forehead and are darker colored. These 2 also have the same size and shape. The red dots at the head are more. The fins end more in a rounded edge and not in a point. One of these 2 fish also has a blotch on the dorsal fin, but the other one doesn't. These 2 fish are 7cm in total length.
The ones w/ the blue/black blotch should be females. I would go w/ that. Do you have pics?

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Re: Sexing Herichthys Deppi

Post by KaaBee » Sat Jan 11, 2014 10:23 am

I have these short movies:

http://youtu.be/Mr2wImIVfQs

http://youtu.be/S_nTQ3hMCqs

http://youtu.be/TjQq04Ugs4o

Don't know how to submit these movies to the forum so I just placed the Youtube link.

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Re: Sexing Herichthys Deppi

Post by Lee Nuttall » Sat Jan 11, 2014 12:27 pm

In my experience keeping and spawning deppii, females at some point will display a dorsal blotch, especially when dominant or sexually active. It looks like the two sparring in the video are dominant females, this doesn't look like pair bonding to me? Females will also display more orange dappling around the head and operculum area.

The two other fish without dorsal blotches could possibly be males or sub dominant females. Even at a young size, I always could see that males develop a thicker profile and steeper cranial profile. It could be a waiting game and see how things develop with the two other fish.

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Re: Sexing Herichthys Deppi

Post by CA cichlid dude » Wed Jan 15, 2014 11:21 am

KaaBee wrote:I have these short movies:

http://youtu.be/Mr2wImIVfQs

http://youtu.be/S_nTQ3hMCqs

http://youtu.be/TjQq04Ugs4o

Don't know how to submit these movies to the forum so I just placed the Youtube link.
It does look like 2 males and 2 females. The females look like they are fighting for dominance and the males look like they have been fighting too. Deppi can be very tough on each other once they spawn, so keep an eye on them.

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