My melanurus in a 125 tall

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Alden
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My melanurus in a 125 tall

Post by Alden » Thu Aug 02, 2012 2:03 am

Definitely not a great photographer, but here are some pics.

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I cropped out a blurred out fish in the background in this one
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I got 5 total. The first photo is a 8" female. The other 4 are about 6" and I cannot tell gender or distinguish the fish from one another yet. They are siblings, but the 8" female was raised in a pond before I purchased her and the other 4 were raised in a 180g with other centrals. I just bought the group of 4 only 3 days ago. Their previous owner said that 2 of them were a pair.

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Re: My melanurus in a 125 tall

Post by Piotr Koba » Thu Aug 02, 2012 5:50 am

Beautiful, slim fish. They are Peten variant, aren't they?
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Re: My melanurus in a 125 tall

Post by Alden » Thu Aug 02, 2012 9:32 am

Yes. Thank you. I'm working on a Peten biotope. I've got petenia splendida "red bay" but I'm working on getting some wild morph "green bay." I'd also like to add a robertsoni or possibly t. meeki.

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Re: My melanurus in a 125 tall

Post by Dan Woodland » Thu Aug 02, 2012 3:23 pm

Careful Alden,

Gorgeous fish, I too have these beautiful fishes.

It sounds like you are planing for a potential problem with space and aggression. Those fish grow rather large and a 5' x 1.5' (60" x 18") tank will not be large enough for your planed inhabitants. Not to mention, Cichlids need floor space as they are bottom dwelling fishes. If they are forced to the upper regions of that tank by aggression, especially when breeding starts, they will not be happy and neither will you when your fish start suffering/potentially dieing.

Keep in mind these fish, most large Central American fishes, come from large lakes and streams where a breeding pair can control "vast" amounts of space (because it's available). In a tank we are very limited to the amount and size of fish we can keep. You may be able to "get away with it" for a while but eventually nature, the fishes nature, will take over.

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Re: My melanurus in a 125 tall

Post by Alden » Thu Aug 02, 2012 3:47 pm

Thank you Dan. I see what you mean. Now I've got to reconsider my final stocking. For now though, if push comes to shove, I will rehome fish that aren't paired, once I identify them. Either that or remove the pair altogether. Not sure yet.

Still, I really respect your input and it goes without saying, I truly respect your contributions to the hobby.

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Re: My melanurus in a 125 tall

Post by smitty » Thu Aug 02, 2012 9:50 pm

Melanurus many people say are the same as Synspilums. Basically Melanurus is suppose to be the new name. Buy I really think they are different but I have no proof.
150gal- Dovi's; 3 AC 110 P.Filters; 2 AC 110 P.Heads; Eheim 2217,2260
180gal- Managuense; 3 AC 110 P.Filters; 2 AC 110 P.Heads; Eheim 2217,2260; FX5
210gal- Argta,Bifsct,Fnstrtus,Maculcda,Regani,Syns,Zntus; 4 AC P.Filters; 2 AC P.Hds; Eheim 2250,2262; FX5

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Re: My melanurus in a 125 tall

Post by Lee Nuttall » Fri Aug 03, 2012 12:52 am

I feel the debate is old news now and there's more proof to suggest otherwise smitty. ;) It's perfectly simple and the paper explaining why is openly available. :)

Lovely melanura, I have a 'Lago de Peten' group myself. :D Good advice from Dan, adult fish will soon fill up 125g aquarium, so keep check on the stocking levels. Enjoy. ;)

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Re: My melanurus in a 125 tall

Post by Alden » Fri Aug 03, 2012 11:24 am

Thank you Lee. I love your set up. It's inspiring. :D I have learned tons from you by reading your writings and interviews. And I will most certainly keep up on my stock.

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Re: My melanurus in a 125 tall

Post by smitty » Sat Aug 04, 2012 9:10 pm

Lee first thanks for your response your angle always have a educational twist. But they always seem to have different colors than the Synspilums.I will read what you attached. I know you are right but it is still something I have to read.
150gal- Dovi's; 3 AC 110 P.Filters; 2 AC 110 P.Heads; Eheim 2217,2260
180gal- Managuense; 3 AC 110 P.Filters; 2 AC 110 P.Heads; Eheim 2217,2260; FX5
210gal- Argta,Bifsct,Fnstrtus,Maculcda,Regani,Syns,Zntus; 4 AC P.Filters; 2 AC P.Hds; Eheim 2250,2262; FX5

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Re: My melanurus in a 125 tall

Post by Lee Nuttall » Sat Aug 11, 2012 6:51 am

I would simply point out that one is the orange morph and the other is a red headed morph. ;)

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Re: My melanurus in a 125 tall

Post by tparker » Fri Oct 05, 2012 3:02 pm

Hello my name is Terrell and a new member to "The Cichlid Room". First I want to say hello to everyone. I have a question that I need answered. I just recently obtained a group of beautiful melanurus and am wondering why they are so hard to come by. I would like to purchase more but it seems to be a very hard cichlid to find. Is there anyone out there that can help me with my endeavor to purchase melanurus? Thanks Terrell : :

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