Progression of melanurus

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Lee Nuttall
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Progression of melanurus

Post by Lee Nuttall » Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:26 am

The adult melanurus featured in the photos are a population from Rio Sarstun (Guatemala). These are the most colourful population I've had the pleasure keeping. The best feature of these fish is the beautiful blue iridecense displayed on the unpaired fins. This trait is certainly displayed more on the male fish. This population looks very similar to fish from "Freshwater Creek" (Belize).

The later photos, i have tried to include some younger melanurus in the same frame for comparison. These are the Lago de Peten (Guatemala) orange form, the original type locality variation. Thanks to Kelvin for supplying these. :D

The Lago de Peten melanurus are developing nicely, where a pecking order is starting to be observed. I have a small group of 5 in this display tank. :D

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Saludos,

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Re: Progression of melanurus

Post by smitty » Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:12 am

So Lee are these Synspilum with sometimes a different variation in color based on there local. I always thought that they were a different species. Enlighten and teach!
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Re: Progression of melanurus

Post by Lee Nuttall » Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:49 pm

smitty wrote:So Lee are these Synspilum with sometimes a different variation in color based on there local. I always thought that they were a different species. Enlighten and teach!
Correct, there are many different variations dependant on river system, colour dosen't constitute a seperate species.

A good example is to check this thread and scroll down a little and you will see a nice collection of different variations by Willem Heijns:

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=7361&p=42065&hilit=melanurus#p42065

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Re: Progression of melanurus

Post by rodald » Tue Dec 13, 2011 8:50 pm

as always perfect fish and pics, they look realy nice, im planing to go to lake peten at the end of the month and hopefuly i will be able to get one, what do you feed them? do they have any favorite food?
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Re: Progression of melanurus

Post by smitty » Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:51 pm

Lee thanks for providing that thread. Boy I love to learn new things. You made my day. Thanks for giving examples to back up your statements.
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Re: Progression of melanurus

Post by smitty » Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:52 pm

Rodald you are where many of us wish we could be. If I was in Guatemala I would be like a kid in a candy store.
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Re: Progression of melanurus

Post by Lee Nuttall » Wed Dec 14, 2011 3:52 am

rodald wrote:as always perfect fish and pics, they look realy nice, im planing to go to lake peten at the end of the month and hopefuly i will be able to get one, what do you feed them? do they have any favorite food?
Thank you.

I feed a varied diet of good quality dried food, occasional chopped mussels and plenty of blanched lettuce leaves. :D

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Re: Progression of melanurus

Post by Lee Nuttall » Wed Dec 14, 2011 3:53 am

Here's a video i have made of the pair.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoo3EB3Y ... ideo_title

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Re: Progression of melanurus

Post by Alex Odesit » Wed Dec 14, 2011 4:59 pm

Amazing fish and interesting info Lee. Pleasure to see them at your high quality photos..
Keep us posted.
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Re: Progression of melanurus

Post by rodald » Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:00 pm

smitty wrote:Rodald you are where many of us wish we could be. If I was in Guatemala I would be like a kid in a candy store.
hahaha belive me is not that easy, the american cichlid hobby is almost inexistent here, everyone rather to have africans plus is not that easy to travel to the rivers and lakes because of the state of the roads :cry:
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Re: Progression of melanurus

Post by filas » Fri Dec 16, 2011 11:37 am

Lee Nuttall wrote:Correct, there are many different variations dependant on river system, colour dosen't constitute a seperate species.
how to verify the variety, where to get specific information about their origin

your fish, as always, perfect
Greetings Filas.

sorry for my english :)

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Re: Progression of melanurus

Post by Lee Nuttall » Sat Dec 17, 2011 4:12 am

filas wrote:
Lee Nuttall wrote:Correct, there are many different variations dependant on river system, colour dosen't constitute a seperate species.
how to verify the variety, where to get specific information about their origin

your fish, as always, perfect
Thank you.

This information can only be given by the vendour/breeder who supplied you the fish. Without actually seeing these fish in the wild, I'm afraid we can only speculate. :)

All i know is that the spotted variation are a Belize race? Sorry i can't be more helpful.

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Re: Progression of melanurus

Post by tparker » Sat Oct 06, 2012 10:38 pm

I have read many articles on melanurus, However I have never been able to track down this elusive fish. Does anyone know where or whom I can purchase these fish? would be very appreciative. I can be reached at: parkair.terrell@yahoo.com Thanks Terrell

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Re: Progression of melanurus

Post by tparker » Tue Oct 09, 2012 10:39 pm

Hi Lee my name is Terrell and I have a deep interest in the melanurus. But they seem very hard to find, can you help me PLEASE? I can be reached at: parkair.terrell@yahoo.com. Or I can be reached @ (240) 216-2645. Thanks.

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