My new tank 2255 l

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My new tank 2255 l

Post by Tasma » Mon Apr 26, 2010 2:08 pm

Hello

I've just finished my new tank - capacity 2255 litres (500 galons).
As you can see bottom is divided into two parts. Deeper one is 1m deep and has dimensions 205cm x 50 cm and shalower is 60cm deep and has dimensions 205 cm x 100 cm.

Front view
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Side view
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Inhabitants are:
11 x Limnochromis auritus
18 x Paracyprichromis brieni Kitumba
25 x Xenotilapia nigrolabiata
9 x Xenotilapia sp. "Papilio sunflower" Kipili
6 x Xenotilapia singularis Ndole
4 x Asprotilapia leptura Cameron Bay
3 x Altolamprologus sp. "Compressiceps shell"

The construction looks strange but I promise that fish behaviour is completely different than in typical cuboid tank.

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Przemek

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Re: My new tank 2255 l

Post by Duster » Mon Apr 26, 2010 4:43 pm

Nice Tank!

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Re: My new tank 2255 l

Post by Esben » Tue Apr 27, 2010 12:57 am

Very cool tank :)
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Re: My new tank 2255 l

Post by Tasma » Tue Apr 27, 2010 1:24 am

Here is short movie
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cmf9YqbRbAc

Przemek

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Re: My new tank 2255 l

Post by Creepy85 » Tue Apr 27, 2010 9:20 am

Wow,

awesome Tank!

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Re: My new tank 2255 l

Post by Lisachromis » Wed Apr 28, 2010 3:45 pm

I love the dual levels on that!

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Re: My new tank 2255 l

Post by Phyllonemus » Thu Apr 29, 2010 2:39 pm

Very unique beatifull tank !

I love the Limnochromis auritus, to me one of the most beautifull Tanganyikan species !
I've never seen them for sale here in the Netherlands :(

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Re: My new tank 2255 l

Post by Foai » Sun May 02, 2010 3:32 pm

Superior dream tank, beautiful idea ! Looks like you have 2 tanks in 1.

I think you are obsessed with "butterfly group".

25 x Xenotilapia nigrolabiata
9 x Xenotilapia sp. "Papilio sunflower" Kipili
6 x Xenotilapia singularis Ndole

To keep 3 variants of same speices can cause hybrids and it's very hard to catch correct female if you decide to seperate the groups. And most of your fish looks like they prefer the upper part of the tank.Maybe because of light or are there some aggressive males at the bottom part ? Some visual barriers like big rocks on the bottom part can be useful for males territories.

Can you post some pics of the whole tank in the room,filtration and equipment?

If I have smth like ths tank,i'd keep

2 m -5 f C.Foai "Sibwesa" or Nkondwe" (maybe O.Nasuta,O.Boops,etc )

4 m - 6 f E.Melanogenys

20-25 C.Leptosoma "any variant" with lots of males like 10m-15f

10 N.Ocelattus with a shell habitat under rocks

10 C.Nigripinnis hanging upside down vertically near rocks =)

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Re: My new tank 2255 l

Post by Tasma » Mon May 03, 2010 3:51 am

Foai wrote:I think you are obsessed with "butterfly group".

25 x Xenotilapia nigrolabiata
9 x Xenotilapia sp. "Papilio sunflower" Kipili
6 x Xenotilapia singularis Ndole

To keep 3 variants of same speices can cause hybrids and it's very hard to catch correct female if you decide to seperate the groups.
These are three different species. I've never heard about crossbreeding between them. I do not think is it possible. They do not seem to be close related.

Foai wrote:And most of your fish looks like they prefer the upper part of the tank.Maybe because of light or are there some aggressive males at the bottom part ? Some visual barriers like big rocks on the bottom part can be useful for males territories.
That was just a few days after i put the fishes in. Now they swim everywhere. Barrier between levels do not seem to be a problem.
Phyllonemus wrote:I love the Limnochromis auritus, to me one of the most beautifull Tanganyikan species !
I've never seen them for sale here in the Netherlands :(
Try to order them here in Poland.

Przemek

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Re: My new tank 2255 l

Post by Foai » Mon May 03, 2010 6:01 am

If you don't think they crossbreed ,can you add pics of 3 different species of Xeno females, let's talk with pictures. I couldn't find proper pics of females on web.

How can you distinguish difference between females especially between nigrolabiata and sp. "Papilio sunflower" females ?
Singularis ( is it ochrogenys ? ) seem to have longer body size..

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Re: My new tank 2255 l

Post by MGSNK » Mon May 03, 2010 9:44 am

Foai wrote:If you don't think they crossbreed ,can you add pics of 3 different species of Xeno females, let's talk with pictures. I couldn't find proper pics of females on web.

How can you distinguish difference between females especially between nigrolabiata and sp. "Papilio sunflower" females ?
Singularis ( is it ochrogenys ? ) seem to have longer body size..
Dude, seriously, you are comparing apples with pears...
First of all, The papilio is a bi-parental breeder, the red princess a maternal breeder.
Lastly the Singularis is one of the largest Xenotiliapia, and does not resemble any of the above mentioned...
I advise you to comment again after reading into the facts my friend :roll:

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Re: My new tank 2255 l

Post by noddy » Mon May 03, 2010 10:27 am

Xenotilapia nigrolabiata and Xenotilapia sp. "Papilio sunflower" look nothing like each other.
Heres a pic of my papilios and a quick search will find the nigrolabiata pics.

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Re: My new tank 2255 l

Post by Foai » Tue May 04, 2010 4:25 am

Being maternal or bi-parental breeding is nothing to do with cross breeding possibility.

You refering as apples and pears for X.Nigrolabiata and X.papilio huh ?

My post is not a comment, I asked if someone have proper pics of "females" of both species...
And I told only singularis can be distinguish by its size.

So...

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Re: My new tank 2255 l

Post by noddy » Tue May 04, 2010 5:08 am

How can you distinguish difference between females especially between nigrolabiata and sp. "Papilio sunflower" females ?

By looking at them.

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Re: My new tank 2255 l

Post by Bas Pels » Tue May 04, 2010 7:09 am

Foai wrote:Being maternal or bi-parental breeding is nothing to do with cross breeding possibility.
First of all, I know nothing about sand dwellers, but this remark struck me

A female of a maternal breeder will do all by herself, and will be able to do so. Female bi-parental breders will need - and expect - the male to do his share, and if he fails to do so (because he is of the wrong species, to keep on topic) the female will not be able to de the breeding all by herself

The clutch of eggs will fail, and no harm is done :D

A good thing, as we don't need more hybrids

One species being maternal breeding and the other being be-parental suffices to keep hybrids out, in my eyes

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Re: My new tank 2255 l

Post by Foai » Tue May 04, 2010 9:42 am

Thank you for your precious replies...
it's a choice to have 3 different species from same genus, which I don't choose even if the tank is big enough and species are can't inbreed...

But I'm not sure if the breeding tecnique prevents hybrids between them.
After the fertilization occurs, some 9-10 old day fry can survive between rocks,in filter etc.. even if there's no male to hold them for another 10 days.

Also are we sure about female's behaviour when there are no males to help her to incubate the eggs.
Maybe she can hold them for another 10 days...

JCB

Re: My new tank 2255 l

Post by JCB » Wed May 05, 2010 1:16 am

Bas Pels wrote:
Foai wrote:Being maternal or bi-parental breeding is nothing to do with cross breeding possibility.
First of all, I know nothing about sand dwellers, but this remark struck me

A female of a maternal breeder will do all by herself, and will be able to do so. Female bi-parental breders will need - and expect - the male to do his share, and if he fails to do so (because he is of the wrong species, to keep on topic) the female will not be able to de the breeding all by herself

The clutch of eggs will fail, and no harm is done :D

A good thing, as we don't need more hybrids

One species being maternal breeding and the other being be-parental suffices to keep hybrids out, in my eyes
The female can do it al in her own. Other tanganyika species have proven that! ;)

But because of the difference in coulor i don`t think that the species wil mate with each other.

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Re: My new tank 2255 l

Post by stausholm » Sun Oct 03, 2010 11:23 am

the shape of the Papilio looks noting like the Nigrolabiata.

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Re: My new tank 2255 l

Post by Michael Andersen » Sat Oct 09, 2010 2:33 pm

Very nice work Przemek :shock:

Do you keep your new Xenos in the same tank ?

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Re: My new tank 2255 l

Post by 1oscar » Wed Nov 10, 2010 11:20 am

very nice setup!!!

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