Xenotiapia ornatipinnis moliro firestream

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Xenotiapia ornatipinnis moliro firestream

Post by tonysfish » Sat Aug 29, 2009 2:07 am

hi to everyone i am new to this forum but have enjoyed reading the articals for a long time i recently purchased 10 X.ornatpinnis moliro fire strean and was wondering if anyone new if they where a true variant or a new name for X . simma i read Thomas Andersens artical in cichlid news magazine but still i am not sure as this fish only had a brief mention i have breed this fish and have about 13 badies and a female is holding at the moment
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Re: Xenotiapia ornatipinnis moliro firestream

Post by Thomas Andersen » Sat Aug 29, 2009 2:55 am

Hello Tony,

yes, it's likely you got the true Xenotilapia sima. Can you post some photos of your fish, that way we will be sure?

Here is what they will look like when full grown:

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Re: Xenotiapia ornatipinnis moliro firestream

Post by tonysfish » Sat Aug 29, 2009 4:19 am

thanks Thomas i am glad my thoughts where similar to yours i will post some photos as soon as i work out how to do it new to that as well spend more time in fish room than on the computer
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Post by Thomas Andersen » Sat Aug 29, 2009 6:21 am

You can just upload the photos directly as attachments. If you are having trouble, as send me a private message.

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Re: Xenotiapia ornatipinnis moliro firestream

Post by tonysfish » Sun Aug 30, 2009 6:09 am

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moliro fire steam one female is holding eggs

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Re: Xenotiapia ornatipinnis moliro firestream

Post by tonysfish » Sun Aug 30, 2009 6:20 am

These fish are about 7 to 8cm i only see some colour when they are breeding love their huge eyes though
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if they are sima why do they call them X.ornatipinnis moliro fire stream
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Re: Xenotiapia ornatipinnis moliro firestream

Post by Thomas Andersen » Sun Aug 30, 2009 6:22 am

Yes, that is indeed the real Xenotilapia sima :)

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Re: Xenotiapia ornatipinnis moliro firestream

Post by Thomas Andersen » Sun Aug 30, 2009 6:26 am

tonysfish wrote:if they are sima why do they call them X.ornatipinnis moliro fire stream
Well, I have tried to tell the importer of the original wild fish, that his fish are certainly not X. ornatipinnis, but X. sima, but it seems that he is a bit stuborn ;)

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Re: Xenotiapia ornatipinnis moliro firestream

Post by tonysfish » Sun Aug 30, 2009 7:00 am

hmmm fish names well i also have a fish that was purchased as sima and as your artical in cichlid news showed it has a longer face like you call boulengeri but my fish have more of of a yellow pattern not the black lines i will try and post some pic's are their variants on boulengeri
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Re: Xenotiapia ornatipinnis moliro firestream

Post by Thomas Andersen » Wed Sep 02, 2009 7:21 am

Yes, Xenotilapia boulengeri do show geographical variation - do you know where yours are from? Photos?

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Re: Xenotiapia ornatipinnis moliro firestream

Post by tonysfish » Mon Sep 07, 2009 8:26 am

well i finaly got back work has been in the way of the fish here are the photos of what is being sold as X . Simma in australia
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Re: Xenotiapia ornatipinnis moliro firestream

Post by Thomas Andersen » Mon Sep 07, 2009 10:57 pm

Yes, these are undoubtly X. boulengeri, can't say the collection locality though.
tonysfish wrote:here are the photos of what is being sold as X . Simma in australia
Not only in Australia, but everywhere else ;)

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Re: Xenotiapia ornatipinnis moliro firestream

Post by tonysfish » Tue Sep 08, 2009 12:38 am

Thanks Tomas for your thoughts it is interesting to see how fish names get mixed up i guess the trouble is convincing people their fish has the wrong name do you know what Ad's opinion was on this subject
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Re: Xenotiapia ornatipinnis moliro firestream

Post by tonysfish » Tue Sep 08, 2009 12:39 am

just another though do other people reading this thread have the same fish only mixed up names
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Re: Xenotiapia ornatipinnis moliro firestream

Post by mrfish » Wed Sep 09, 2009 6:46 am

Hi Tony

I am just new to the forum as well. Its good to see another Australian with an interest in the sandsifters.

I love your true X.Sima very nice looking fish (I like the shape of the head with massive eyes. Very endearing)

I am in northern NSW. If you are close by and you have juveniles to sell in the future I might be interested.

I currently have just bred some X.Flavipinnis and X.Spilopterus. I started with 9 Flav fry but am down to 8 (still very young).
I have 11 Spilopterus still have egg sacs at the moment but are going well.

I went down stairs tonight and have just found a different spilopterus female with a mouthful (Im very excited)

Anyway I will stop rambling

Cheers

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Re: Xenotiapia ornatipinnis moliro firestream

Post by tonysfish » Wed Sep 09, 2009 7:36 am

hi mark good to hear of someone else who keeps xenotiapia species in australia their are not a lot of people who do keep them but then they are not always easy to get . the moliro firestream eyes are so large that when viewed from above the tank they almost touch in the middle of the head. very different. interesting to watch courting each other as well anyway good luck with the fry
tony

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Re: Xenotiapia ornatipinnis moliro firestream

Post by chooktech » Tue Jan 19, 2010 12:02 am

getting these in at the end of this month so let you know more on there arrival
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Re: Xenotiapia ornatipinnis moliro firestream

Post by Karlos » Thu Dec 22, 2011 11:56 am

Salute,
here are some few shots of my Xenotilapia sima, greets Karel.
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Re: Xenotiapia ornatipinnis moliro firestream

Post by tonysfish » Wed Mar 07, 2012 7:16 am

These are very good pictures thanks. I need to update the photo's of my adults they are a few years old now and look stunning yhey have huge eyes and good colour as in thomas's photo at the beginning of this post,and still a very piecefull fish
tony :D

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Re: Xenotiapia ornatipinnis moliro firestream

Post by tonysfish » Sun May 13, 2012 7:51 am

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these are the same fish as my earlier photos ,this is definately a xeno that gets better with age they are now nearly 3 years old :D
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