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Subgenera - Haplochromis Was: Nomenclature help

Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 6:37 pm
by Youenn
Hi,

What about subgenera?

Another problem is the validity of the genera of Greenwood for Haplochromine.
Different authors (Snoeks, Van Oijen...) argue that several where not clearly defined and decided to come back to the genera Haplochromis until a proper work will improve and resolve the problem.
Since these publications, some have been rehabilitated and other genera have been defined and described. So, except these genera, all the other have to be under Haplochromis genus. And we wait for soon publications.
May be the former Greenwood genera have to be mentioned with quotation mark (and not under bracket because they are not subgenera).
On of the big problem is that some non described species have been put in some genera where they obviously not belong. for exemple, Neochromis sp. "Entebbe" which quite surely not a Neochromis.
I think, that for described species, you were wright to use Eshmeyer catalog as basis. although if we know that a lot of work remain to be done on systematics of Haplochromine.
(And sorry for my poor english, I am French...) :wink:

The Association Haplochromis (http://www.haplochromis.org) have made an up-to-date list of Haplochromine known both described and non described fish which synonimy. :wink:

Re: Subgenera - Haplochromis Was: Nomenclature help

Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 7:44 pm
by Alex Calder
Thank you Youenn,

In all honestly were sub genera to be required I will change the code to allow for quotes in the appropriate places.
For now sub genera will exist in the synonyms table as a pointer to the correct genera given the situation.
This will be the simplest way for us to handle it. We will do our best to stay on top of nomenclature, hence why I ask so many questions. Inevitably there will be slip ups, however the openness and audience size coupled with the ease of editing should help us a lot.

Your English is much better than my French. ;)

Alex

Re: Subgenera - Haplochromis Was: Nomenclature help

Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 8:07 pm
by Youenn
Hi,
I will check with Assoc Haplochromis if they can give you the list up-to-date of Haplochromine species (without Malawian). :wink:

Because it is a big mess in Haplochromine, I think it is very important to have a common list following the nomenclature rules everywhere, although if there is some doubts and desagreement.

Re: Subgenera - Haplochromis Was: Nomenclature help

Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 9:40 pm
by Alex Calder
Youenn,

That would be incredibly helpful. Please pm me with who to provide credit to should I utilize the list.

Alex