F0 Apistogramma norberti breeding/pairing hints

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F0 Apistogramma norberti breeding/pairing hints

Post by gage » Tue Oct 27, 2009 5:53 pm

Hey guys, picked up 5 F0 Apistogramma norberti, but they aren't wanting to pair up, any suggestions are welcome.

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Re: F0 Apistogramma norberti breeding/pairing hints

Post by Lisachromis » Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:28 am

No idea on the breeding hints, even though I have bred norberti in the past. I just had mine in a 20 gallon tank with plants and some small clay pots.

I miss my norberti. I kept the male I bred (I only had a few fry) for over 8 years. He was a gorgeous fish even though he liked hiding.

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Re: F0 Apistogramma norberti breeding/pairing hints

Post by gage » Thu Oct 29, 2009 2:43 pm

Thanks for the reply :)

by chance do you have pics of that male norberti?

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Post by Lisachromis » Thu Oct 29, 2009 4:14 pm

Maybe a few old pics, but he's not very visible. I know he's there tho. LOL

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Re: F0 Apistogramma norberti breeding/pairing hints

Post by Lisachromis » Thu Oct 29, 2009 4:15 pm

Oh... forgot...

http://users.kent.net/~lisab/Anorberti.html

A few pics there. As you can see, they spawned in 2000. And, you'll also see I had a REALLY crappy camera.

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Re: F0 Apistogramma norberti breeding/pairing hints

Post by gage » Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:24 am

Thanks for the pics :) I'll try to get pics of mine, not much color on mine at all, maybe a tad bit lol.

is there any way to sex them at 1-1.75"?
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Re: F0 Apistogramma norberti breeding/pairing hints

Post by gage » Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:33 am

when you bred them, what was the water temperature and pH?

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Post by Lisachromis » Fri Oct 30, 2009 3:02 pm

Well... pH here tends to run around 7.8 (I was told they wouldn't spawn in that, or at least no viable fry). The temp was probably around 75 or so. This is going on memory though.

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Re: F0 Apistogramma norberti breeding/pairing hints

Post by gage » Fri Oct 30, 2009 7:30 pm

any little bit helps! thank you! but about the sexing, is it possible at this size?

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Re: F0 Apistogramma norberti breeding/pairing hints

Post by Lisachromis » Sat Oct 31, 2009 8:42 am

I assume the typical black pelvics like many other Apistos, but it's been so long...... sorry. Maybe Mike Wise will pop in and help out.

Oh, not sure this will help but the water hardness around here is 222 ppm.

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Re: F0 Apistogramma norberti breeding/pairing hints

Post by gage » Sun Nov 01, 2009 9:25 pm

My apologizes, very new to the Apisto world, know nothing about them, I assume females have black pelvics males do not? never heard of this before, great to know.

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Re: F0 Apistogramma norberti breeding/pairing hints

Post by Lisachromis » Mon Nov 02, 2009 10:24 am

Yes, generally speaking, the females will have black pelvics and the males don't. Sorry, didn't mean to assume you knew.

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Re: F0 Apistogramma norberti breeding/pairing hints

Post by gage » Mon Nov 02, 2009 11:35 am

not a problem, now I do :)

I'm used to my old CA's when all you had to do was look at it was hanging out to tell you whether it was a male or female :lol:

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Re: F0 Apistogramma norberti breeding/pairing hints

Post by Mike Wise » Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:19 am

A. norberti is relatively easy to sex - if the fish are old enough. Males show rows of spots on the tail; females have no pattern on the tail. My A. norberti, which I brought back from Peru, reproduced in water similar to their wild habitat: pH <6.0, 3º dGH, <1º dKH, cond. < 50 µS/cm @ 26ºC/79ºF. Males are very rough on females and other males. The tend to form breeding pairs (like A. nijsseni) and drive off or kill other members of their species. Once a pair forms, breeding is fairly smooth.

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Re: F0 Apistogramma norberti breeding/pairing hints

Post by gage » Sat Nov 07, 2009 10:54 pm

Thank you for the reply and help!

They are in a 90g 48" tank, so I hope it is enough room for them to pair up peacefully.

How old before you can see these spots in the tail?

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Re: F0 Apistogramma norberti breeding/pairing hints

Post by Mike Wise » Sat Nov 14, 2009 10:05 pm

If your fish are over 1½ in./2.5 cm then the fish should be sexable and the males should show a patterned tail fin. Otherwise they may all be females.

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Re: F0 Apistogramma norberti breeding/pairing hints

Post by gage » Thu Nov 19, 2009 9:07 pm

ok, thanks, not that size quite yet, doing well though!

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Re: F0 Apistogramma norberti breeding/pairing hints

Post by Csababá » Wed Jan 13, 2010 12:09 am

Hi,
any updates, pics?
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