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Help ASAP

Post by Dan Scheeff » Tue Nov 27, 2007 5:52 pm

I have five discus in a 55 gallon aqarium and at times a couple of the smaller ones don't look so hot; they get very dark in color. I don't think there are any open wonds or anything like that on them. A few weeks ago, Paul Turley thought that they had gill flukes and so I did a two week treatment (more like 10-12 days) where I would add Kordon "Rid-Ich+" every morning after doing a 25% or greater water change every day. I was thinking that maybe I should do a weeks worth of Melafix on the tank, but the instructions say not to do a water change for 7 days...not sure if that is the best idea as I like to do water changes on their tank every few days. Any suggestions out there?
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Post by Dan Scheeff » Tue Nov 27, 2007 6:00 pm

I probably should mention that I have a few "special" plecos in the tank like an L200 and L007 (named James) plus some Cory cats.
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Post by Dan Scheeff » Sun Dec 02, 2007 6:07 pm

In the great words of Pink Floyd, "Is there anybody out there?"
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Re: Help ASAP

Post by PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn » Sun Dec 02, 2007 6:36 pm

the best way for us to help is a full history

tank setup, how long, any recent additions, exact stock listing, how old are the discus, diet


and most importantly water parameters (pH, Gh, Kh, ammonia, NitrIte, nitrAte)
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Re: Help ASAP

Post by nosoop4u246 » Wed Jun 11, 2008 2:42 pm

I had a Ram doing the same thing, and after treating for internal parasites, fully recovered. I start by soaking its food (assuming it's still eating) in metronidazole, or using any commercial medicated food. If not, try something like Paracide D or Clout...

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Re: Help ASAP

Post by apistomaster » Tue Jul 22, 2008 5:57 pm

Been awhile since my last visit.
You may have a parasite problem but it is also possible that the smaller discus never had the potential to grow normally . If they were purchased from a fish shop i would be especially be inclined to suspect they endured less than optimal care which left them partially stunted. It takes a surprisingly short time in a fish shop where they may have only been fed flakes twice a day for a week or two to permanently stunt them.

If you bought them all at the same time, same sizes, and from a specialist, then the lack of growth may be more related to the position they have in the pecking order. If these are your first discus then you may have been unintentionally responsible in failing to observe early signs of their falling behind in time. Not hard to do if you aren't experienced.

There is a possibility your Discus have a fluke problem. I do recommend the meds suggested so far. PraziPro is gentle on the fish and tough on the flukes. Try it since it does no harm and do follow the directions. It may be also added to their favorite pellets. Just saturate the pellets prior to using them first. It doesn't hurt to treat from within and without. Assuming you Discus are aquarium raised and not wilds, they can contract fluke from wild Plecos. Both need the same procedures to clean them up.

A 55 gal tank is not a very good discus aquariums. You get a very poor surface area to volume ratio. Even a 40 gal breeder has more surface area than a 55.
I recommend using a 75 gal at the least as a permanent home for 6 to 8 discus. You are staying within the rule of thumb of 10 gal/discus and as long as you are diligently changing 50% of the water 2 X week, then you can keep 5 adult discus Ok in your 55 gal.
I was given a 55 gal and have used it as a temporary grow out tank for 1 inch fry and then to when I sell them at 2-1/4 to 2-1/2 inches. I change 50% of the water daily, have both an Eheim Classic #2217, large sponge filter driven by a MaxiJet 600 power head and a wet/dry filter running 500 gph. This allows me to grow out about 2 dozen discus to salable size.

Try to provide your water test results and filter details if your discus are still in trouble..
Larry Waybright

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