Pindu spawned

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Pindu spawned

Post by dstuer » Thu Jan 04, 2007 9:14 am

Pindu spawned over the holidays, they've been spawning over the last 2 years but never able to get more than a fry or 2. After some good advice from Ken Davis now have almost 20.
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Male was good until she spit, he then started abusing, so he was sequestered, still proud, but he's a little depressed.
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Post by Lisachromis » Thu Jan 04, 2007 9:47 am

Congrats on the spawn! :)

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Post by Mark Smith » Thu Jan 04, 2007 10:45 am

Congrats on the spawn!

I could not help but notice that your fish look more like S. mongo than S. pindu?? Do you have a better side view photo of your male that you could share with us??

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Post by dstuer » Thu Jan 04, 2007 12:37 pm

I'll try to get a better profile shot tonight and post it.
I have been wondering about that pindu/mongo ID lately. The pair are going on 3 years old. The male only got that craggy, prehistoric (for lack of a better word) profile in the last few months. They originally came to me from Mike Mckinney in Massachusetts/upstate NY.
Most of the time they are jet black, but when the male gets sexually charged, he gets that grey mottled look.
Here are a couple older shots, not very clear though.
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If they are mongo, I'd surely like to know.

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Post by Dan Woodland » Thu Jan 04, 2007 2:24 pm

I asked a reliable source, your fish are S. pindu. S. Mongo are much longer and look more like a Ramphochromis and are rarley imported to the states if at all and only seen one alive, once.

Congrats on the spawn!

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Post by Mark Smith » Thu Jan 04, 2007 4:26 pm

Mongo's have only come out a couple of times, as far as I know. I had one individual, and Lamboj had another. My lone specimen died after having it for 4 years. It came in at about 3 1/2 inches, and when it died, it was 5 1/2 inches.

Upon an initial observation, your Stomatepia seems to be intermediate between pindu and mongo, based upon my having had both before. Just a thought, though... There could just be a natural physical variation in S. pindu.

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Pindu

Post by dstuer » Fri Jan 05, 2007 9:22 am

Me mongo?
after seeing your photo post above, Mark, and other comments, for sure,me pindu.
Took some phonecam shots last night, and this boy has a way higher body.
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Post by Mark Smith » Fri Jan 05, 2007 9:42 am

Thanks Dstuer!

Impressive looking individual! That sideview of the snout of your Stomatepia looks quite a bit different than my specimens. In the next day or so, I will attempt to post a photo of my pindu and mongo for comparison.

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Post by dstuer » Fri Jan 05, 2007 9:52 am

I know what you mean, he has a great profile. He's about 7" nose to tip of tail at 3 years of age, only developed the angular profile in the last few months. I have a few of his progeny at about half the size that don't show the craggy look, wonder if its a dominence trait. Also have another lone male in a different tank thats the same age with a similar, although not as drastic look. I'll be very interested to see yours.
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Post by Michael.NEGRINI » Fri Jan 05, 2007 12:17 pm

Sure it is S. pindu, and this is a big male :!: I'm keeping and breeding this species since 2000 and I never had a male this big.

here are some photos of mines : http://www.cichlidae.free.fr/articles.php?lng=fr&pg=124
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Post by Mark Smith » Fri Jan 05, 2007 3:46 pm

Hi Michael

Thanks for your photos too! Here are my photos of my lone S. mongo and dominant male S. pindu. The S. mongo would take on a solid black coloration too, depending on its mood.

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Stomatepia mongo

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Stomatepia pindu

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Post by Lisachromis » Fri Jan 05, 2007 9:22 pm

Mark,

What is that fish behind the mongo?

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Post by Mark Smith » Fri Jan 05, 2007 9:25 pm

Hi Lisa

I was wondering who would be the first to ask me that. I'll give you a couple of try's before I say what it is. Give it your best shot!

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Post by Lisachromis » Fri Jan 05, 2007 9:31 pm

Arrowana, but no idea of which species. My best guess.

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Post by Mark Smith » Fri Jan 05, 2007 10:35 pm

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Post by Ken Boorman » Fri Jan 05, 2007 11:07 pm

HTF did you get one of them?

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Post by Michael.NEGRINI » Sat Jan 06, 2007 3:29 am

Nice photos and fishes Mark. Your S. mongo seems adult, which size it is ?

S. mongo and N. forsteri in the same tank, is it remake of ET in the aquarium ? :lol:

In 2000, I had the chance to see a shipment of fishes from lake Barombi Mbo. They were some hundreds of Stomatepia, mostly S. mariae and S. pindu. They are relatively easy to identify, dark pattern and head shape are different. But I've seen one or two fishes among S. pindu without black pattern and head shape was a bit different :
http://www.cichlidae.free.fr/articles.php?lng=fr&pg=208

What do you think about this fish ?
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Post by Mark Smith » Sat Jan 06, 2007 10:33 am

Hi Michael

I remember seeing your website and photo of Stomatepia sp. "Dore" a few years ago. Glad to see you still have your site up and running.

It sure looks like the Dore is a distinct species. My first observation is that is has a more chunky body, shorter head, and much larger eye than the other 3 species in the genus.

Did your Dore ever darken up depending on their mood??

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Post by Michael.NEGRINI » Sat Jan 06, 2007 10:59 am

Hi Mark,

unfortunately, today I don't understand why, but I didn't take the golden Stomatepia with me coming back to France.
I thought I could take them later, but they died at the shop/importer in Belgium. What a pity...
The color was uniformly gold all the time I looked at them.
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Post by Mark Smith » Sat Jan 06, 2007 11:31 am

Sorry to hear that, Michael

At least we all now know that their is likely a 4th Stomatepia species!! Hopefully, they'll come in again someday?

Mark

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