Guianacara sp. Surinam "Red spotted"

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Re: Guianacara sp. Surinam "Red spotted"

Postby opa roel » Sat Mar 31, 2012 9:11 am

well Piotr, you have to bare in mind that there is a big difference in the two species. The Geo's do much more sifting the sand then the Guianacara's. It really it very different.
I had the both species in my tank, G.Pindare and these guys. I try'd it first with leaves, but in a day al the leaves where under the sand.
The Guianacara's are sometime's sifting the sand to but not in the extant of the Geo's. The pick up things and look under and above pieces of wood to see if there's anything to eat.

When I had only the G.Pindare in my tank I used bigger peaces of wood and branches on the bottom. And every week I had to find them and place them back on the sand. :)
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Re: Guianacara sp. Surinam "Red spotted"

Postby Lotsapetsgarfhts » Sun Apr 01, 2012 8:44 pm

Those are beautiful!

That is interesting I have G. Pindare and I seldom see them sift, mine are in with some S. daemon and spare P. sacrimontis which is really funny to watch. The sacrimontis paired up and spawned and they control 1/3 of the tank and they are 1/4 the size of the other fish. I'll be siphoning those fry out in another day or so.
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Re: Guianacara sp. Surinam "Red spotted"

Postby opa roel » Mon Apr 02, 2012 5:02 am

hello and thanks.

its strange that the pindare's are not sifting the sand. Its what the normally do for a big part of the day. So I'm wondering why yours don't. :o
I see that you have also another earth eater in your tank the beautiful deamons.
I my self had for a little while 2 species to, but I did not like it, so I sold them to another member of my own forum.

P. sacrimontis, is a very beautiful fish, but not an south-american one. Or do you mean an other fish.??

got some picture's ??
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Re: Guianacara sp. Surinam "Red spotted"

Postby Lotsapetsgarfhts » Mon Apr 02, 2012 11:57 am

Yes the sacrimontis are the african dwarf. I got 6 lost 1. One pair spawned in the original tank and I moved the other 3 out to the tank with the G. pindari and S. daemon. Most of the time they all get along fine, but the spawn has disrupted things a little. I siphoned the fry off earlier today and rearranged the rocks and wood and harmony has returned.

I haven't tried for any photos yet, I just got a new point and shoot digital but I'm still getting used to it maybe I'll try later today.

I am also growing up a group of my favorites A. heckelii. I have 12 that are 5 to 6 inches and the males are beginning to show their extentions. I know the females get them too but they are not as long.

I do have G. (supposed) metae, but I think it is the more common one and some Gymnogeophagus (El Norte, meridianalis, and gymnogenys).

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Re: Guianacara sp. Surinam "Red spotted"

Postby opa roel » Mon Apr 02, 2012 12:16 pm

nice, I like Heckelii very much.
Where do you live? :)
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Re: Guianacara sp. Surinam "Red spotted"

Postby Lotsapetsgarfhts » Mon Apr 02, 2012 1:14 pm

I am near Cleveland Ohio, where are you?
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Re: Guianacara sp. Surinam "Red spotted"

Postby opa roel » Mon Apr 02, 2012 3:35 pm

hahaha, in Holland, so its a bit to far to get some of your heckelii.
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Re: Guianacara sp. Surinam "Red spotted"

Postby Lotsapetsgarfhts » Mon Apr 02, 2012 4:43 pm

Not impossible though, it can be done.
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Re: Guianacara sp. Surinam "Red spotted"

Postby opa roel » Mon Apr 02, 2012 6:46 pm

:lol: true, but picking up a group of youngsters over here seems to be a little easier and, not unimportant, a bit more wallet friendly. :|)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-yYNIlt ... L4BkN3Q%3D

here is a little movie made by a good friend of mine. His name is Nijlpaard, or hippo. He make's wounder full takes. this was just 2012. Made when our living room was full of people, we had a tank-show with several members of my own forum. So we take a look at several tanks.
Its a small coutry so its a bit more easier then yours. :)

This guy owns a really big tank, 4 meters long, :shock:
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Re: Guianacara sp. Surinam "Red spotted"

Postby Lotsapetsgarfhts » Mon Apr 02, 2012 8:57 pm

Yes you are probably right. Are heckelii commonly bred over there? They are available probably as pond bred fish. I have also seen them on some tranship lists out of the far east, I don't think many people have actually spawned them in the aquarium. The best way to get them is as contaminants in shipments from Guyana and Surinam. I once got a box of G. "surinamensis" that had heckelii and some Guinarcara in it.

The ones I have now were bred in Florida.

I did try to take some photos today, I had two problems. The fish rush the glass because they always want to eat and I need to figure out how to adjust some settings and turn the flash off. I will try with my old Nikon tomorrow, it is my third Nikon digital. The new one is a Cannon and I am still learning how to use it. I should also clean the outside of the glass too.

The video was amazing, so is the tank. Most of my tanks are for growing fish up and are decorated so that they are easy to maintain or for breeding and are also decorated for the comfort of the fish but are also made so they can easily be maintained. I have 1 display aquarium in the living room which is a mixture of cyprinids with some large angelfish, but my wife was saying she would like some of the cichlids up here because she enjoys the family group. I think It'll be redone soon with some Julidichromis and some Cyprichromis, maybe some Eretmodus or a sand dwelling bottom hopper or maybe some shell dwellers and some synodontis. I'll let her decide. As long as it swims I don't care what it is.
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Re: Guianacara sp. Surinam "Red spotted"

Postby Bas Pels » Tue Apr 03, 2012 12:55 am

In Europe they are often imported as A hecklelii

Normally I'd say, if only your 3th shop in the winter will have them, it's bad luck
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Re: Guianacara sp. Surinam "Red spotted"

Postby DRE » Sat Apr 07, 2012 12:17 pm

Man I wish I could get hold of such Guianacaras. Fantastic!!
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Re: Guianacara sp. Surinam "Red spotted"

Postby opa roel » Sat Apr 07, 2012 1:35 pm

well there still are some of these fish in the store where a bought them.

http://www.aqua-ferrytale.nl/cichliden-amerika.html

may bee your lfs can contact them, ask for Eelke and who will tell, if its possible.
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Re: Guianacara sp. Surinam "Red spotted"

Postby Bas Pels » Sun Apr 08, 2012 2:01 am

Eelke does speak english very well. He studied the language
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Re: Guianacara sp. Surinam "Red spotted"

Postby opa roel » Sun Apr 08, 2012 8:04 am

saw a couple spawning close to the front, so I managed to shoot some video, it was a little dark, so the quality is not perfect. uploading is slow, it takes a while for 1.40 minutes, and I''ve got a fast connection :(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFVuQARABI8
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Re: Guianacara sp. Surinam "Red spotted"

Postby damian_ireland » Fri May 18, 2012 9:51 am

super looking fish.
in contact with the shop today to see if I can get them shipped.
They have several fish that i want
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Re: Guianacara sp. Surinam "Red spotted"

Postby opa roel » Mon Jun 25, 2012 1:36 pm

hope for the best. they are really wonderful fish.
this are some pictures from this month.

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Re: Guianacara sp. Surinam "Red spotted"

Postby DRE » Mon Jun 25, 2012 1:57 pm

Sweet mother!! They were beautys!! Wow I'd like some :-P
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Re: Guianacara sp. Surinam "Red spotted"

Postby opa roel » Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:04 pm

they don't stop to amaze me, both with there beauty or there behavior.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vonUNgX6Uno
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Re: Guianacara sp. Surinam "Red spotted"

Postby damian_ireland » Thu Jul 05, 2012 10:23 am

I love these fish but cant find an easy way to get them to me in Ireland.. I have also got my LFS to check supplier lists but no sign... i even contacted aquaferrytale but they dont have anyone that would send them to Ireland for a reasonable amount of money...

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