Does anyone have any information or images on this fish? I understand its a substrate spawner. Is it an ex meridonalis variant?
Ken Davis wrote:Matt, The Gyno sp orange is being distributed by Uncle Ned's, decendants of fish Ariel caught last year, I'm sure they had a collection location when he sold them to them, I questioned this via PM when he posted them for sale on MFK and he scoffed at me and called me the President of Uruguay.(??) He did post a picture Areil took of a gold Gymno that looks like the one that comes from Riviera north of Tacuarembo. He also had C. Punctata mislabled, Jerks like this ruin the hobby.
I've seen norte mixed in with several Rhabdotus types coming out of the Florida farms, (high dorasl too), A friend got a shipment from them and had Gymnogynes labled labiatus from Convento, which Felipe uses for the rhabdotus from Melo, same group of fish had Australoheros Red Ceibal and Dimerus mixed together. I am afraid that this is becoming common, people e-mail me all the time with names of fish they bought that are not correct, misspelled or only partial names and then you find out they have a species that doesn't even come from that area, won't be long before they will all be mutt fish just like convicts. When you send out batches of fish that are mixed species or mislabled, hobbyist who don't know any better will bred these fish together. It's sad when you consider how great the wild fish look in the pure form. Ken
Bas Pels wrote:Altjhough I prefer a name like G. sp cf rhabdotus 'Rio Santa Lucia' over G Paso Pache I, I do have one question:
1)Are the fishes from the different localities along the Rio Santa Lucia (to stick with this example) the same everywhere??
2)As you know, I was unable to bring pictures back home from the Gymnogeophagus cf gymnogenys we collected in the Aroyo Tala (my second trip), but if I remember correctly, they did look different from the G sp cf gymnogenys 'Santa Lucia' I have at home.
3)This Arroyo Tala is part of the R Santa Lucia bed - again, if I remember correctly
Perhaps we better speak of
4)G sp cf rhabdotus 'Rio Santa Lucia near Paso Pache' and G sp cf gymnogenys 'Rio Santa Lucia near Paso Pache' instead??
dogofwar wrote:I don't find it difficult to differentiate between "rhabdotus" group (substrate spawners) and "gymnogenys" group (mouthbrooders)...II and I for a given collection location, respectively, or understanding that a given collection location probably has one of each!.
madzarembski wrote:dogofwar wrote:I don't find it difficult to differentiate between "rhabdotus" group (substrate spawners) and "gymnogenys" group (mouthbrooders)...II and I for a given collection location, respectively, or understanding that a given collection location probably has one of each!.
I apologize for my ignorance. I'm not sure what I did to upset you, but the fact is people are selling fish that are mislabelled or incorrectly labeled. This has gone on for a long time with a lot of different species. All one can do is try and educate oneself. I'm very new to Gymnos in general and I have been recently gotten back into cichlid keeping after a long hiatus. I am looking for some information that is all. Felipe and Bas, Thank you very much for your earnest and well thought responses.
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