Thank you all for your help, I guess I'll just have to live with the fact I got gipped again on a purchase of Victorian Cichlids.
They are nice fish though, the dominant male is also very entertaining, and yesterday just got together with an unidentified female Victorian, and now she's holding. I'm not removing her from the main tank as I am really not interested in Hybrids. The fry will just have to take their chances.
Greg, the Victorian Cichlid scene in Australia, or at least in Brisbane (where I live) is actually pretty poor, there is a decent following here what I can gather, I run into people at the Queensland Cichlid Club gatherings who are avid Vic. Cich. fans, but getting them is another matter.
As you can see from the two fish I posted in this one thread, wholesalers are terrible, and yes, the regulations involving bringing fish in the country are still as strict as ever, probably even more so now (with a new banned list with more names on it being released just the other week), so we have to rely on breeders, they being few. As a result, when we actually do manage to find a pure Victorian breed from a breeder, the price can be quite high.
The regulations toward a lot of Cichlids (African or American) in this country are quite strict, usually a total ban on import or export, meaning, once again a heavy reliance on those already breeding particular types of Cichlids. Though of course you hear about people who 'can get anything you want', as I'm sure those types of people exist in every country.
On the bright side for me personally I just acquired 4 female Astatotilapia Latifasciata to go with the male I already had. I found another Male but they wanted $45.00 for him, and I am pretty sure I get another male and 2 more females for about that from another source.
Better yet I also have just gained 2 small male Xystichromis Phytophagus that show every sign of looking just like the 2 photo's of them on http://www.africancichlids.net
, just need to get some females now from the same supplier. (I have been trying to get X. Phytophagus for about 6 Months now) Looks like I finally got what I paid for.
As for other Vic breeds, not too many that I can find, a few Pundamilia variants, I don't pretend to know everything that's available here but I do know it's hard to find very many as I have been exhaustively to many different places, even in smaller towns outside of Brisbane (you never know your luck). I have been trying for 6-7 months to find Enterochromis sp. 'Red Back Scraper' but so far haven't been able to find out one way or another if it's even available in Australia.
I am also trying to get Astatotilapia Calliptera for breeding purposes, just because I really like them and as far as I am aware is the only Lake Malawi Cichlid to be related to the Victorian Breeds, in fact a Sister Fish to the Victorian Breeds. I know they can be found here, as a mate has 1 male but this also is proving a hard find for me.
Ad Konings just did a great talk/seminar here in Brisbane, but unfortunately not much on Victorians.
Thanks again for your help Greg, and Lisachromis and Endymion. If there is anything else you'd like to know about the Australian Cichlid scene or anything else, just let me know. And if anyone wants to have a stab at identifying the second fish in here, that'd be great (even if it's another Hybrid).