Bleekeri

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Bleekeri

Postby Lucky Nate » Tue Jan 22, 2008 5:28 pm

Hello,

I was wondering what species this was. I was under the assumption it was a female Bleekeri. Thanks.
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Re: Bleekeri

Postby Philippe Burnel » Wed Jan 23, 2008 1:35 am

bleekeri (if the species name is not a synonym of polleni) is a large spoted Paratilapia probably extinct (if I don't mistake).
The small spotted paratilapia belong to different species that need to be described.
Without any information about the locality your fish comes from, I guess it'll be difficult to give it a correct name.
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Re: Bleekeri

Postby Paulo José Alves » Wed Jan 23, 2008 6:02 am

Hi


The large blotched Paratilapia, namely the Andapa form, is still around namely here in Portugal.
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Re: Bleekeri

Postby ciclasoman » Wed Jan 23, 2008 11:28 pm

Yes, indeed....Paratilapia typus (Andapa) is only available in Europe, darn it!!! I located an exported in Portugal to send fish to Texas but unfortunately the owner did not want to part with a few to start a colony across the Atlantic. Your fish, as Philippe mentioned, is not bleekeri. In fact, unless you know the breeder to be careful not to mix strains, you may have a hybrid- usually a loss in the number of spots is a give away but don't quote me on that. A redescription of the genus is in the works and you'll probably see it in some form in the updated book Patrick de Rham and Nourissat published for the French Cichlid Association.
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Re: Bleekeri

Postby Philippe Burnel » Thu Jan 24, 2008 1:57 am

ciclasoman wrote:Yes, indeed....Paratilapia typus (Andapa) is only available in Europe,


I don't think that the Paratilapia "Andapa" is P. typus because P. "Andapa" is a large blotched Paratilapia. It seems (but I can mistake) that P. typus is a small spot Paratilapia and COULD be P. sp "East Coast"
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Re: Bleekeri

Postby Lucky Nate » Thu Jan 24, 2008 12:39 pm

Thanks everyone. I am in the States. By the way, I am willing to sell this for cheap to a good home. I live in the LA/ Orange County area.
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Re: Bleekeri

Postby Lucky Nate » Thu Jan 24, 2008 12:41 pm

Also I have a very nice Carpinte that I need to find a home for. I believe it's female and marking and color are very nice. My email address is n8thegr8one@msn.com
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Re: Bleekeri

Postby ciclasoman » Thu Jan 24, 2008 3:09 pm

Philippe Burnel wrote:
ciclasoman wrote:Yes, indeed....Paratilapia typus (Andapa) is only available in Europe,


I don't think that the Paratilapia "Andapa" is P. typus because P. "Andapa" is a large blotched Paratilapia. It seems (but I can mistake) that P. typus is a small spot Paratilapia and COULD be P. sp "East Coast"


Greetings Philippe:
This is an interesting issue, what I have come to know as comming from the Andapa cuvete is the very large spotted Paratilapia- will have to look for some text from Patrick at some point. I hope the comming revision of the genus will sort some of the issues.
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Re: Bleekeri

Postby Philippe Burnel » Fri Jan 25, 2008 1:33 am

The Andapa form probably extends much more in the south because a french aquarist in the beginning of the 80's sent to France a few large spotted Paratilapia coming from "Foulpoint" 60 kms north of Tamatave.
Unfortunatly it's now impossible to know exactly where because the guy has been eaten by a crocodile.
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Re: Bleekeri

Postby ciclasoman » Tue Jan 29, 2008 4:08 am

Greetings:
Evidently, Philippe, Paratilapia typus is a small spot species, thanks for correcting me !!! As you point out its range is on the east coast of Madagascar.
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