Are these Kyoga Flameback / All Red Nawampasa?

[taeniopareius]

Are these young fish Kyoga Flameback / All Red Nawampasa? They are sold as All Red Lake Nawampasa but I am not sure. Here is pic of a territorial male:

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Especially this another territorial male:

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[Greg Steeves]

I cannot be sure on labelling your cichlid Xystichromis sp. "Kyoga flameback". In all honesty I approached Samaki with identification information on the group I maintain. His identification was correct and was later confirmed by Dr. Kaufman. I had been refering to my fish as "Nawampassa all reds" incorrectly; the initial field name given was X. sp. "Kyoga flameback". Anyhow, regardless, I have found that dominant males display much of the red coloration in the dorsal, the mid flank line is much thicker than in your fish, and mine lack the strong vertical barring. The barring on the head is much different as well. Perhaps Chris could chime in here and offer some insight as well.

Photo by Dave Hansen

[taeniopareius]

Thank you. This is what I'm afraid of. The fish in the pic is still around 2-2 1/2 inches but having pretty intense color with tint of red covering the gillcover and the shoulder, but like you said there is no trace of red on most part of dorsal fin and forehead, and the lateral band seems broken [that's why I question if it is really Kyoga Flameback in the first plece]. Can it be hybrid with H. thickskin?
Usually at what size would the red color on Kyoga Flameback cover the forehead and dorsal fin though, and would the dorsal fin initially blue first or would the red and blue start appearing at the same time?

[taeniopareius]

After searching around it looks like this blue fin one had been sold earlier as various species with "red" in the name, and used to be sold as H. sp. red shoulder too...

[Christophe de Medeiros]

Hi It looks not to be all red Nawapassa to me but rather another species( unintidified or unknown) it is the third time I heard about this red shoulder species, I 've heard about their presence in Gremany but we don't know it in France.

xris

[taeniopareius]

A month later and the coloration doesn't change. Is this and/or red shoulder [that may be identical] a confirmed hybrid?

[Christophe de Medeiros]

Hi taennio

here's a pic of a young nawampassa all red'kyoga flameback)
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d163/ ... _red_e.jpg
yu can see that the red distribution is not exactly the same, this fish was at 4-5 cm size.
xris