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by **Colby Dixon** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 4:45 pm

Did anyone else here watch the Discovery Channel's "Planet Earth" series? The Freshwater episode features some footage from Malawi (Mbuna in HD!) and a male Cichlid mouthbrooding....

Does anyone know what species that was? Discovery's web-site claims it is a male, and that it is the first time this behavior (a male Malawi Cichlid mouthbrooding) has been captured on film....

by **PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 5:17 pm

i have t wait and see when its being shown over here (this is the planet earth with david Attenborough narating it???)

somehow i dont believe that, maybe it was a monomorphic sp, and they got mixed up. will have a look when its repeated over here

by **Colby Dixon** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 9:23 pm

Sigourne Weaver is the narrator.

Check out Discovery.com for details on the program.

by **Colby Dixon** » Tue May 08, 2007 5:50 pm

PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn wrote:i have t wait and see when its being shown over here (this is the planet earth with david Attenborough narating it???)

somehow i dont believe that, maybe it was a monomorphic sp, and they got mixed up. will have a look when its repeated over here

Did some research...yes, in the UK it was Attenborough narrating...they re-dubbed it for the US market :roll:

I've asked this question in a lot of different places and to different people and still can't find an answer...(Pam-I'll stop bugging you in that chat room about it now!)

I've decided to try to go to the source and have posted a message on Discoveries website. Hopefully someone will know the answer, or who to contact to get the answer.

http://community.discovery.com/eve/foru ... 2451931198

My next step will be to go check the credits for the "Malawi Crew" and see if I can locate contacts for any of them.

Website · by **Pam Chin** » Tue May 08, 2007 9:18 pm

Seedy,

Wow, way to go, pull me right out into the public eye here!! Just cause I blew you off in the chat room!!! lol

I have this on my Tivo, so I just watched it closely....

The narration for the clip is:

"This Parent isn't eating his young, he is nuturing them."

My guess is a female Tyrannochromis macrostoma

Do I win anything????

Cichlid Power!
Pam

by **Colby Dixon** » Tue May 08, 2007 9:33 pm

Oh, but who would've known what "Pam" I was talking about! :roll:

Glad you got it on tivo...I'm trying to download the BBC's version of it, as I understand there were script changes when it was americanized...

I want to get a screen capture of the fish to post...

Not that I doubt you (or the other people who think it's actually a female fish). For some reason, I guess I want to believe that Discovery is correct and that they have found a biparental mouthbrooder in Malawi. It would be interesting.

by **Colby Dixon** » Tue May 08, 2007 9:53 pm

Here is the link where they make the claim...unfortunately it's difficult to navigate the flash to find itl.... you need to follow freshwater, then click the little icon of the angel fish, then click on "sight unseen"...

http://dsc.discovery.com/convergence/pl ... imals.html

Normally I would cut and paste a small portion of the text I want to quote...but it looks like the text is laid out in an image...so...here's a screen shot:

by **supermariodj** » Thu May 17, 2007 2:36 pm

The article does not say which male has been sent takeing care of eggs. I mean, which specie of course...

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by **PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn** » Fri May 18, 2007 8:27 am

http://www.alloftv.net/index.php?content=episodes&show=524&season=1&epID=12160

theres the episode. part 2 has the malawi section. however as close as i was watching i didnt see any males mouthbrooding

by **Colby Dixon** » Fri May 18, 2007 4:12 pm

Madman: I also just obtained a copy of the original "Planet Earth" without that silly lady from Aliens narating! :twisted:

The original naration does NOT mention the sex of the fish. I have captured some "frame grabs" of the fish (thank you "redzebra24" from C-F chat) in question.

TO THE ADMIN/Juan Miguel: If I take only a portion of the frame, and post it for educational (we are trying to ID the species) purposes (clearly not for profit)...and distort/obscure most of the scene (except for the fish) would this be "fair use"?

Website · by **Lisachromis** » Fri May 18, 2007 6:32 pm

I don't have a problem with it being an aide to ID the fish.

by **Colby Dixon** » Mon May 21, 2007 10:27 pm

by **PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn** » Tue May 22, 2007 9:48 am

my main geuss would be a female Tyrannochromis macrostoma

http://www.malawimayhem.com/profile_show.php?id=526

otherwise possibly a female Protomelas sp "Black Belly"
http://www.cichlid-forum.com/profiles/image.php?id=1234&pic=1
http://www.cichlid-forum.com/profiles/species.php?id=1234

i went through the Ad Konings book and those were the 2 that looked similar but in no cases did i find a male like that

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