My happs

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My happs

Postby Sendog » Mon Nov 17, 2008 4:37 am

hallo Here are my haps. I have question about 2 last pictures. Any idea what species they are?

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Re: My happs

Postby Sendog » Fri Nov 21, 2008 3:53 pm

Any ideas really? The 4th was sold me as X. nuchisquamulatus.
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Re: My happs

Postby Christophe de Medeiros » Sun Nov 23, 2008 10:42 am

Sendog wrote:hallo Here are my haps. I have question about 2 last pictures. Any idea what species they are?

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Hi The first looks like a Pundamilia nyererei but I can't tell you the location :)
the 2d looks like a H.sp"44(on certain points) and H.phytopagus(on others points) but he is young so it means that I'm not sure at 100%
the third looks like" a mix of two species(a mollusk eater and an insectivore) because of the form of the snout and cephalic profile. I can't tell you what this is.
the fourth looks to be hybrid to me because the colour pattern seems a mix of latifasciatus and sp44 or kenya gold.
xris
I'm sorry to announce such things :( It sometime lead people to give up with these species. I know that some good breeders with identified fishes live in Germany. May be you can take contact with them to have reliable and serious :) source for yours vics. :)
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Re: My happs

Postby mapyru » Tue Nov 25, 2008 4:47 pm

Hi,
I share same opinion


- For a Pundamilia nyererei (fish 1), If you don't know from where it comes out of the lake ( I mean the original strain) , it is fussy .
There are so many population Igombe , Ruty, Makobe , Python, that population cross-breeding is a rule and species quality is doubtful

- I like fish two . I don't know what it is!

- The third look a bit as a Pundamilia for the head face
the dorsal fin colour makes me think a bit to the dorsal of the Pundamilia read head ,
see this
http://burnel.club.fr/Victo/PRedHeadNyererei.jpg

-Clearly 4 is strange , either fish is so stressed that it displays a really strange pattern of stripes , either and more probably it is one of the most CH44, we can find in many pet store (at least here in Europe)

I will not say categorically they are hybrids, should wait a bit for the fish showing more pronounced colour
but the idea to get fishes from well identified breeder seems logical, but it is not that easy!

But don't give up , I think it is a good start ... follow the evolution and show more pictures when possible

See you (sorry for my bad English)
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Re: My happs

Postby Endymion » Tue Nov 25, 2008 6:30 pm

I'm pretty sure that all this fishes are hybrids. The first fish looks like some nyererei hybrid, a pure nyererei should be red all the way down to the nose. Second fish look like a second generation hybrid between nyererei and Thickskin. Third picture is a hybrid with a Pundamilia sp."red head" involved. Fourth picture possibly hybrid between thickskin and kenya gold.

I attach pictures of a F1 hybrid between Nyererei and thickskin and F2 hybrid of same species. The F1 is the one that looks most like a nyererei.
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