emerald fire and red fin peibald

[Christophe de Medeiros]

Hi friends
I'm searching some informations about these two species, I know that the red fin may come from Victoria Nile and Kyoga system and is an insectivor species, may be some of you have any datas about their maintenance and tank mates, the people who caught this fish and perhaps when? the same thing about emerlad fire, I know that it may come from lake Edward and George but have no idea concerning its food, and its way of life and how it interacts with the others species.
xris
thanks for the help.
I'm also curious to see some pics of both if anyone has some.

[Greg Steeves]

Hi Chris

I'm sorry but I can give you no information on Haplochromis sp. Emerald fire"

Paralabidochromis sp. "red fin piebald" is found, as you said, in the Victorian Nile and much of the Kyoga drainage. It may be found as far south as Jinja Uganda. It has a wide distribution in the region. This species has the loose, elongated, fork-like teeth indicative of the genus. It grows to 12 cm with the females slightly smaller of the sexes. Although P. sp. "red fin piebald" is moderately aggressive, it can easily be bullied by comparably sized Pundamilia and other rougher cichlids. In a small tank the issue of aggression is more pronounced. A lot of time is spent 'grazing' objects, especially plants. As both sexes are piebald, it is a good candidate for mixing with another cichlids from the region with little chance of hybridization. Many of the "sheller" species as Ptyochromis sp. "salmon" or Platytaeniodus sp. "red tail sheller" work well as do other Paralabidochromis species such as members of the rock krib complex, chromogynos, and sp. "fire". The algae grazers, Neochromis work well although I would stick with sp."madonna" or rufocaudalis and avoid the other ob morphs of N. greenwoodi and N. omnicaeruleus.

Male co specs are sometimes hard on one another so one might find it best to maintain Paralabidochromis sp. "red fin piebald" in a harem situation. They are quite prolific and begin to spawn at a very young age (at 7 months on occasion). Brood sizes number in excess of 40 fry in large adult females.

[Youenn]

Hi Chris

I'm sorry but I can give you no information on Haplochromis sp. Emerald fire"

Paralabidochromis sp. "red fin piebald" is found, as you said, in the Victorian Nile and much of the Kyoga drainage. It may be found as far south as Jinja Uganda. It has a wide distribution in the region. This species has the loose, elongated, fork-like teeth indicative of the genus. It grows to 12 cm with the females slightly smaller of the sexes. Although P. sp. "red fin piebald" is moderately aggressive, it can easily be bullied by comparably sized Pundamilia and other rougher cichlids. In a small tank the issue of aggression is more pronounced. A lot of time is spent 'grazing' objects, especially plants. As both sexes are piebald, it is a good candidate for mixing with another cichlids from the region with little chance of hybridization. Many of the "sheller" species as Ptyochromis sp. "salmon" or Platytaeniodus sp. "red tail sheller" work well as do other Paralabidochromis species such as members of the rock krib complex, chromogynos, and sp. "fire". The algae grazers, Neochromis work well although I would stick with sp."madonna" or rufocaudalis and avoid the other ob morphs of N. greenwoodi and N. omnicaeruleus.

Male co specs are sometimes hard on one another so one might find it best to maintain Paralabidochromis sp. "red fin piebald" in a harem situation. They are quite prolific and begin to spawn at a very young age (at 7 months on occasion). Brood sizes number in excess of 40 fry in large adult females.

Have you check on the fish that the H. sp. "red fin piedbald” is a Paralabidochromis? sp "salmon" is a Ptyochromis? "red tail sheller" is a Platytaeniodus?

[Greg Steeves]

An undescribed fish does not mean they can't be fit in an established genus. We still have many Aulonocara species not described but we know they are Aulonocara, same with Apistogramma and many other fish. I guess it boils down to what you consider valid. You and I obviously do not agree on this but that's ok. I know your thoughts my friend Perhaps instead of worrying about my designations, you could have provided Samaki with the information he asked for in his original post.

[Youenn]

Yes my friend.
But no answer for Chris. I just hear about Haplochromis "red fin piedbald". And saw some pictures.
And I am worried.
Do you think these two species have been brought back by Les? or Paul Loiselle?
Or export by the guy (a fishfarming) who has send several species from Uganda?
I wonder if the first specimen of H. "red fin piedbald" came to Europe or US?
What about H. sp. "emerald fire".
My concern is the fact that I am scared about the presence of people who have made hybrids and sale them under a new name, just to get money. It will be not the first time that we can see this kind of problem.

[Christophe de Medeiros]

Thanks alot for the infos Greg
xris