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What kind of cichlids do I have

Postby Cards » Sun Aug 07, 2011 8:17 pm

I was wanting to know which kinds of ciclids I have. I know the colored ones is a m. Pyrsonotos right? How do you tell males from females. I have some colored ones and some brownish ones with strips are they a different kind or do they get colors at a certain age?
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Re: What kind of cichlids do I have

Postby Cards » Mon Aug 08, 2011 5:13 pm

Here are a couple pictures if anyone can help.
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Re: What kind of cichlids do I have

Postby SergeS » Wed Aug 10, 2011 4:35 am

A "coloured fish" can be just about anything, especially in the case of Malawi cichlids :lol: , so it would help if you posted some pictures. A first guess would be that the coloured ones are males and the brownish ones are supressed males and/or females :) Assuming it's the same species of course!
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Re: What kind of cichlids do I have

Postby Cards » Wed Aug 10, 2011 4:43 pm

SergeS wrote:A "coloured fish" can be just about anything, especially in the case of Malawi cichlids :lol: , so it would help if you posted some pictures. A first guess would be that the coloured ones are males and the brownish ones are supressed males and/or females :) Assuming it's the same species of course!

I redone my post with some pictures but it hasnt showed up yet hope you could help when it does show up i couldnt figure out how to attach photos after this was on here so i made a new post and put 3 pics with it but it hasnt showed up. If the brown colored ones are both male a female how do you tell the difference. thanks
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Re: What kind of cichlids do I have

Postby UriB » Wed Aug 10, 2011 6:33 pm

Hi Cards, at first glance :lol: I'd have to agree with Serge S, without some sort of visual reference it will be hard to judge what fish you have (even for the experts :lol: ) BUT then again in reference to colour IF you presume your fish are M.pyrsonotos the female s have very similar colour paterns not brownish as you describe UNLESS they are still juvies!? I'm looking forwards to seeing some photos.

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Re: What kind of cichlids do I have

Postby riftlaker » Thu Aug 11, 2011 8:06 am

You need to post pictures so someone can help identify them.
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Re: What kind of cichlids do I have

Postby Philippe Burnel » Thu Aug 11, 2011 11:13 am

It's ABSOLUTLY impossible to give a name to your fishes with such bad quality pictures.
Even with nice pictures it's not always easy..
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Re: What kind of cichlids do I have

Postby Cards » Thu Aug 11, 2011 12:19 pm

riftlaker wrote:You need to post pictures so someone can help identify them.

I postsed some pics if you want to see thanks
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Re: What kind of cichlids do I have

Postby Cards » Thu Aug 11, 2011 12:20 pm

UriB wrote:Hi Cards, at first glance :lol: I'd have to agree with Serge S, without some sort of visual reference it will be hard to judge what fish you have (even for the experts :lol: ) BUT then again in reference to colour IF you presume your fish are M.pyrsonotos the female s have very similar colour paterns not brownish as you describe UNLESS they are still juvies!? I'm looking forwards to seeing some photos.

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I posted some pics if you could help thanks
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Re: What kind of cichlids do I have

Postby UriB » Thu Aug 11, 2011 5:15 pm

Thx Cards, from the photos that you have posted, is it at all possible that the coloured-up one is perhaps the most dominant of the group hence the intense colours?? What other cichlids do you have in that tank, it might help some of us in identifying them properly, again, thx mate.
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Re: What kind of cichlids do I have

Postby Cards » Thu Aug 11, 2011 5:54 pm

UriB wrote:Thx Cards, from the photos that you have posted, is it at all possible that the coloured-up one is perhaps the most dominant of the group hence the intense colours?? What other cichlids do you have in that tank, it might help some of us in identifying them properly, again, thx mate.

When I bought them I bought tank and all the fish the lady said they were all one kind she just told me they were African cichlids. Yes the colored ones seem to be the dominant ones. Does that help. We are almost over crowded but I don't want to get rid of all males or females we want them to still mate. So far we have had three babies survive. We just wanted to figure out which kind we had and how to tell males from females. Thanks alot for all the help you can give.
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Re: What kind of cichlids do I have

Postby SergeS » Thu Aug 18, 2011 3:53 am

Difficult to tell, the quality is not great. It looks like a Metriaclima (Maylandia) species indeed. And M. pyrsonotos would be a pretty good guess. But as Philippe already said, it's not easy without clear pictures. Even very experienced Malawi keepers will not be able to identify all species visually.

Regardless of the species, the brightly coloured fish (the white one with dark bars and the bright orange fins) is for sure a male, the bluish purple ones are probably surpressed males, but they can also be dominant females (very hard to tell the difference, untill they breed!), and the brown ones are likely females. Again, that is assuming it's all the same species :)

Reading back, I don't think this helps much, but Malawi cichlids, especially Mbuna, are very cunning when hiding their gender. It is possible to determine it by 'venting' them, but you'll need an experienced cichlid keeper for that.
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Re: What kind of cichlids do I have

Postby Cards » Thu Aug 18, 2011 3:43 pm

SergeS wrote:Difficult to tell, the quality is not great. It looks like a Metriaclima (Maylandia) species indeed. And M. pyrsonotos would be a pretty good guess. But as Philippe already said, it's not easy without clear pictures. Even very experienced Malawi keepers will not be able to identify all species visually.

Regardless of the species, the brightly coloured fish (the white one with dark bars and the bright orange fins) is for sure a male, the bluish purple ones are probably surpressed males, but they can also be dominant females (very hard to tell the difference, untill they breed!), and the brown ones are likely females. Again, that is assuming it's all the same species :)

Reading back, I don't think this helps much, but Malawi cichlids, especially Mbuna, are very cunning when hiding their gender. It is possible to determine it by 'venting' them, but you'll need an experienced cichlid keeper for that.

Thank you very much. They will even change colors during the day
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Re: What kind of cichlids do I have

Postby SergeS » Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:44 am

Yes, they do, depending on their mood. Some species change colours in a matter of seconds. You look and see brightly coloured fish, and you look again, and you see a grey/brown fish :lol:
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Re: What kind of cichlids do I have

Postby afraone » Sun Aug 21, 2011 12:26 pm

as the others have said hard to say with the quality of the photos the one that is in colour with the yellow/orange dorsal could possibably be cynotilapia afra jalo reef
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