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Retroculus xinguensis - Spawning

Postby Ole Marius Ekeberg » Sun May 09, 2010 12:41 pm

Hi.

I have three Retroculus xinguensis, one male and two females.
Keeping them in a 720 liter aquarium, with lots of flowing water and open areas.
Now... finally, they have began to spawn...

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First time they spawned, the ph was 6,4. At the second (30 days later) it was 7,5(!) Temperature was 28 celsius.

Courtship have began around 10 days before they have initiated spawning. Then they begin to show remarkable colours...

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At the spawning site they build two large pits. And then they collect different materials found in the aquarium... small peces of roots, and larger gravel.

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They lay around 200-250 eggs. These eggs seems to be really sticky - the egg shield is covered in sand.
Shure must be of some protection.

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Then they start to move the eggs from one pit to the other, every 8-10th hour or so.
At night she even hide the eggs by digging them down...

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The female will not let the male come too close to the nest the first days. If he is too close she will deliver a bite, - some times even take big chunks of his tail.

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So... they first layed eggs at March 16. And i managed to pick up some before they where all gone. Got 19 pcs, and i putted them in a small tank, with only a airstone, heater, some floating plants, a cuple of rocks, and fine sand. I made a pit in the sand, and placed the eggs not too close to each other. Cuple of them got fungus, but i removed them before they infected the rest.

Had some problems with nitrit at the beginning, and lost several of them.. but i was able sto fix it by adding some bio-balls from a already cycled canister (shuld have done that at the start...). Now, 55 days later, there is 5 left.... At least i have not lost any in the last 27 days. Seems to run stable.
The biggest one is about 1,5 cm long, and the smalles 0,9.
Temperature in the tank is 29 celsius, and the ph is 7,5.
They get artemia-naupiler, and now also some cyclops.

This picture was taken cuple of weeks ago.

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I will come back with updates as they grow :)

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Re: Retroculus xinguensis - Spawning

Postby Piotr Koba » Sun May 09, 2010 12:54 pm

Superb news. Parents look awesome!
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Re: Retroculus xinguensis - Spawning

Postby Ole Marius Ekeberg » Sun May 09, 2010 1:07 pm

They sure do! :)

I think feeding is one of the most important factors, when getting these fishes to spawn. - A varied diet, and good amounts of food seems to be wery important. I give them mysis, artemia, shrimp, mussels, blood worms, earth worms, discus bits and spirulina flakes - upp to four times a day. Still they have now began to eat my tetras... :shock:

Also its important that they feel as safe as possible in their aquarium, cuse they are eazy frightened. And when these guys get panic, they can hurt themself really bad! Retroculus are strong and muscular fishes...

I have only lighed up the front part of the aquarium, and have added a huge root that gives them great cover from the outside. Most of the day they stay in the dark zone...
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Re: Retroculus xinguensis - Spawning

Postby mike b » Sun May 09, 2010 2:19 pm

Ive never seen these before they are breathtaking truly beautiful fish!
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Re: Retroculus xinguensis - Spawning

Postby Rafael. » Sun May 09, 2010 2:42 pm

:shock:

Congratulation! :)

Very nice photos, please more shots. :D
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Re: Retroculus xinguensis - Spawning

Postby Bas Pels » Sun May 09, 2010 2:53 pm

Thank you for joining, I think you rate very high in my top 10 of introductions

Spawning of one of the most beautiful fishes, wao
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Re: Retroculus xinguensis - Spawning

Postby cedricguppy » Sun May 09, 2010 4:45 pm

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Re: Retroculus xinguensis - Spawning

Postby blackghost » Sun May 09, 2010 5:50 pm

Excellent. I have only seen Retroculus once, but have always liked them.
How do they behave with other cichlid spp - and their own sp - when not breeding??
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Re: Retroculus xinguensis - Spawning

Postby Ole Marius Ekeberg » Sun May 09, 2010 6:14 pm

Hi.

When not breeding, or in courtship, they are just hovering around in the current, not bothering anyone. Now and then they may touch each other, but nothing seriously...

They usually dont show a lot of colours when they are in that state... Only wery bright, and slightly yellow. But still brethtaking... :)

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While guarding the eggs, they seem to have a hard time keeping some of the other cichlid sp away from the pit... I have kept them with Guianacara geayi, and Geophagus proximus - not a perfect match at all.

But they have no problem keeping the other retroculus female away. So i am thinking about removing all the other fishes, and only keep xinguensis in this tank...

I think they maby do best alone.
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Re: Retroculus xinguensis - Spawning

Postby Marko Lenac » Mon May 10, 2010 1:28 am

great story! congrats!

I also noticed that Retroculus should be housed alone... and Geophagus are in my opinion one of the worst companions.

keep the great work!!
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Re: Retroculus xinguensis - Spawning

Postby blackghost » Mon May 10, 2010 10:29 am

Ole, what do you feed them. I understand they are predators, rather than substrate-sifters. Is this true ??
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Re: Retroculus xinguensis - Spawning

Postby Ole Marius Ekeberg » Mon May 10, 2010 2:29 pm

... I give them mysis, artemia, shrimp, mussels, blood worms, earth worms, discus bits and spirulina flakes - upp to four times a day. Still they have now began to eat my tetras...


... and forgot to mention that i also some times give them coalfish. :)

They do search the substrate for food all day long, moving a lot of sand. That is obusly their main thing. But they also take smaller fishes if possible..
- 5 cm tetra are considered food.

They are mutch better at picking food from the substrate though, than catching it in the free stream.. Can look rather clumsy when they try to take food on its way down to the bottom...
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Re: Retroculus xinguensis - Spawning

Postby blackghost » Mon May 10, 2010 7:56 pm

Sorry Ole. I did read the thread - the first time. :lol:

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Re: Retroculus xinguensis - Spawning

Postby Michael Kwist » Thu May 13, 2010 11:18 am

Welcome..

Some very nice pictures you did a good job for making this pictures.. i like them :D 8)
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Re: Retroculus xinguensis - Spawning

Postby Ole Marius Ekeberg » Fri May 14, 2010 10:48 am

Here you can see the parents tank in the back, and the fry is placed in the small tank to the left.

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It seems like they are going to spawn again soon. So i am now preparing a 40 liter tank, which i am hopefully going to fill with xinguensis eggs!

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I have had a couple of incidents where the temperature has dropped with up to 4 degrees, accidental, while i have changed water.
They have taken no harm, but they did stay put on the substrate until the temperature was close to 29 celsius again.

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You can see that they have started to show some green colorations on the head...
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Re: Retroculus xinguensis - Spawning

Postby Ole Marius Ekeberg » Sat May 15, 2010 11:57 am

... and today they have spawned again!!

Ph: 7
Temperature: 28,5 celsius

I have taken out 50% of the eggs, around 80-100. Hopefully i will be able to rise more than five individuals this time...

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I know there are several ppl who are interested in this fish, in Germany, Sweden, and Norway. So it shuld be no problem to find homes for the upcoming fry.
The market is not exactly overflooded with xinguensis... so this is pretty exciting!!

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Re: Retroculus xinguensis - Spawning

Postby Piotr Koba » Sat May 15, 2010 2:58 pm

Congratulations again Ole. What GH or conductivity you have in the main tank?
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Re: Retroculus xinguensis - Spawning

Postby Ole Marius Ekeberg » Mon May 17, 2010 5:38 am

... i have a test kit, but dont understand how to use it yet.. :)
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Re: Retroculus xinguensis - Spawning

Postby Piotr Koba » Mon May 17, 2010 4:45 pm

Hehe ok I can wait :D
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Re: Retroculus xinguensis - Spawning

Postby Ole Marius Ekeberg » Thu May 20, 2010 3:20 pm

GH is now 5-6.

18.05.2010 the eggs began to hatch, in the "fry-tank" and the main tank. - The parents have actually made it so far.

The female have a different pattern now, than when it was only eggs.... And she have become much more territorial.
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