ID these juvenile Crenicichla

[elindra]

Appreciate some ID help here.

Juvenile #1


Juvenile #2


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[elindra]

Better pic of #2


The fish is an olive green... Kinda like a light olive cuban gar colour

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[elindra]

Do you guys think #2 is a lepidota?

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[Piotr Koba]

To me the first fish is juvenile C. lenticulata, while the second one might be C. sp. 'Inirida I'. This splitted spot behind the operculum and stripe under the eye might seems to be features of this species, however, it's often very difficult to tell the slight differences between species of this Group, and I am certainly not a specialist.

[elindra]

To me the first fish is juvenile C. lenticulata, while the second one might be C. sp. 'Inirida I'. This splitted spot behind the operculum and stripe under the eye might seems to be features of this species, however, it's often very difficult to tell the slight differences between species of this Group, and I am certainly not a specialist.

Thanks for yr attempt to help me ID but #1 is definitely not C. lenticulata. I suspect it might be something similar to sp Venezuela or maybe one of the red pikes since the juvies look very similar. Was hoping someone can shed some light.

As for #2 I was thinking saxatilis group. Isn't Inirida a dwarf pike?

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[Piotr Koba]

There are some like four sp. Inirida (I-IV) pikes, all from the same group. Talking about the #1 I'd rather wait and see what they turn out to be.
Yet, it would be nice to hear from someone much more experienced than me.

[elindra]

I did some digging and Inirida for the Saxatilis group and it looks pretty close to #2, especially Inirida I when the pike is more stable but I could only find pics for I & III so I can't compare with II and IV

I got confused with the sp Inirida which is commonly used for dwarf pikes.

[Piotr Koba]

What I wrote is based on just 2 pictures of this species in "Die Buntbarsche Amerikas 3" by Stawikowski & Werner, see p. 120. However, since those are just common names and internet users tend to confuse them even more you can never know.
According to the above mentioned book postopercular spots of sp. Inirida IV and II have are no splitted and has no (or little) golden hue around it.

[elindra]

What I wrote is based on just 2 pictures of this species in "Die Buntbarsche Amerikas 3" by Stawikowski & Werner, see p. 120. However, since those are just common names and internet users tend to confuse them even more you can never know.
According to the above mentioned book postopercular spots of sp. Inirida IV and II have are no splitted and has no (or little) golden hue around it.

I hv no access to that book where I am. Anyway, will try to refer to my friend's Aqualog to see any pictures in there.

These fishes aren't commonly seen right?

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[Piotr Koba]

I can't judge because I live where I live and pikes are generally rare sight here. But doubtless those are beautiful and well worth keeping species.

[elindra]

I can't judge because I live where I live and pikes are generally rare sight here. But doubtless those are beautiful and well worth keeping species.

Well I guess that can be said for most places since crenicichla aren't very popular.

Most Common ones found where I live are the C. Lugubris sp Atabapo red and the cincta though due to a recent short pike craze we are getting stuff like the zebrina and fat lips. Think a batch of Multispinosa should be coming in soon as well.
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[Piotr Koba]

Wow, those are some great species indeed! Good luck.

[elindra]

They are but no space for them and I hv kinda decided to concentrate on lugubris and dwarf pikes. The sax was an impulse buy

Updated photo:


Belly is more pinkish but it's not showing in the photo apparently. Anyway this pce belongs to my friend. It's impossible to take a pic of mine.

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[elindra]

Another pic



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