Review trip to Río Almoloya

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Review trip to Río Almoloya

Postby fgfranco » Tue Mar 08, 2011 5:31 pm

This trip started Friday night at 8:00 pm while waiting for my teammates to reach the meeting point to get us going. They arrived late, we got the things needed and finally took the road, after some traffic at the start we were on the highway.

Thus began the conversation, plans, design the itinerary and details of the activities to be carried out in our destiny, I must say that I were very sleepy, so taking advantage of supposedly one of my colleagues knew where to go and that I was alone in the backseat of the car I fell into a deep sleep when I woke up 3 hours later we were on a unknown road to me - when I asked - Where are we? - The answer was - We'll come to Oaxaca - heck - I thought - this oversight had cost us at least 4 hours late because to get to our destination would require a detour.

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Without more details we arrived to the River call "Río Almoloya" at approximately 9:30 am, we parked our car and we prepared to enter the water to photograph the now famous Paratheraps sp. Coatzacoalcos. But the sky was overcast which made it difficult making some of the pictures, although I must say that the climate was changing, going from sunny to cloudy, rainy and windy in a matter of minutes.

I was returning to the same point where 3 years ago I collected some specimens that have served for, at least in Mexico, were introduced to the market these beautiful fish, but due to my carelessness, I could not keep my breeding pair.

On that occasion I had found only the Paratheraps sp. Coatzacoalcos and a Thorichthys sp. Mixteco, which did not last long in my tank since it never medicate against parasites.

To my surprise we found a great variety of species, the cichlids that we could saw were the following species:

Paratheraps sp. Coatzacoalcos
Paraneetroplus bulleri
Thorichthys sp. Mixteco (blue)
Thorichthys callolepis
exCichlasoma salvini
Vieja regain
Amphilophus trimaculatus

Unfortunately I could find only one adult female with fry, although the latter situation could notice it until I checked the photos out of the water, was in a cavity in one of the banks of the river, behind a fallen branch, which made access was extremely complicated, which is why I managed to take photos out of focus due to I could only extend my arm to take the picture.

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Gradually the river we were giving up their secrets, we saw that the Vieja reganis are a minority among the population of fishes.

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being the Paratheraps sp. Coatzacoalcos the most abundant (juveniles) together with the Paraneetroplus bulleri.

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We could see adults of P. bulleri in breeding coloration, defending a depression in the bedrock. The youth like to stay in places where the current is more intense, to the hope that this will bring some bite of food.

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Little by little to go looking in the most remote places we could find a haven where the 2 species of Thorichthys had made their nests, it is a wonderful sight to see these species in their breeding colors, especially the T. sp Mixteco, that really is impressive, with bright blue lips and pelvic fins with the same color, contrasting with the bright orange body and blue eyes. It was very interesting that this species is mostly curious and come close enough to the unknown object to investigate allowing a better photograph.

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As for exCichlasoma salvini, its appearance was sporadic but Omar could found a female with fry.

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An interesting detail is the presence of Amphilophus trimaculatus, this specie acording to what say Juan Miguel Artigas was introduced 10 years ago, it is not endemic to this area, however there is a presence of this cycle, in any case we could not view any adult specimen.

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being able to see couples P. bulleri defend its territory and simultaneously maintained at less than 2 meters from other breeding pairs.

The river has clear water and we could observe, despite the fact that human settlements are located on the banks of the river does not discharge wastewater into the river, there was presence of garbage on the banks but the locals say that this was deposited by de current river in the past rainy season, which mention was unusually strong.

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Unfortunately we did find some tilapia, but they were not the majority. Deserve mention different species of birds, I regret not knowing their common or scientific names but they were very beautiful.

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In short this is a short review of our trip to this Mexican paradise, that is important that we maintain, I wish it were unchanged, but will need to find the solution rather than the perpetrators.

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For those who want to see the complete set of photos I divided the pictures by species and the river

Amphilophus trimaculatus
exCichlasoma salvini
Paraneetroplus bulleri

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Re: Review trip to Río Almoloya

Postby fgfranco » Tue Mar 08, 2011 5:32 pm

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Re: Review trip to Río Almoloya

Postby Lisachromis » Wed Mar 09, 2011 1:33 pm

Sure looks like a fun trip to me!
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Re: Review trip to Río Almoloya

Postby Alex Odesit » Wed Mar 09, 2011 3:11 pm

Nice trip, thank you for sharing details and pictures.
Very interesting.
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Re: Review trip to Río Almoloya

Postby Piotr Koba » Wed Mar 09, 2011 4:38 pm

One of those topics which ensure me to be more determinated in searching for CA setup for my tank. Thanks a lot. 8)
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Re: Review trip to Río Almoloya

Postby fgfranco » Wed Mar 09, 2011 8:31 pm

Thanks for your comments, I could say I had a lot of fun on that trip.

Soon I will put some new photos from my next trip to Cuatro Cienegas. :)

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Re: Review trip to Río Almoloya

Postby Alex Odesit » Wed Mar 09, 2011 9:08 pm

fgfranco wrote:
Soon I will put some new photos from my next trip to Cuatro Cienegas. :)

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Please do so.
I should drive away from Rivera Maya area during my next visit to Mexico and see other then cenotes I visited several times places.
But for now I can only imagine looking at your pictures 8)
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Re: Review trip to Río Almoloya

Postby fgfranco » Thu Mar 10, 2011 12:06 pm

Alex Odesit wrote:
fgfranco wrote:
Soon I will put some new photos from my next trip to Cuatro Cienegas. :)

Regards.


Please do so.
I should drive away from Rivera Maya area during my next visit to Mexico and see other then cenotes I visited several times places.
But for now I can only imagine looking at your pictures 8)
Saludos!


that's Great Alex, You should visit "Laguna de Bacalar" and take some photos of P. synspilum "yellow" I can say that this fish is my holy grial
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Re: Review trip to Río Almoloya

Postby Alex Odesit » Thu Mar 10, 2011 1:18 pm

fgfranco wrote:
Alex Odesit wrote:
fgfranco wrote:
Soon I will put some new photos from my next trip to Cuatro Cienegas. :)

Regards.


Please do so.
I should drive away from Rivera Maya area during my next visit to Mexico and see other then cenotes I visited several times places.
But for now I can only imagine looking at your pictures 8)
Saludos!


that's Great Alex, You should visit "Laguna de Bacalar" and take some photos of P. synspilum "yellow" I can say that this fish is my holy grial

"Laguna de Bacalar" ..is it long drive from Tulum? What part of Mexico it is?
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Re: Review trip to Río Almoloya

Postby Piotr Koba » Thu Mar 10, 2011 6:21 pm

fgfranco wrote:Thanks for your comments, I could say I had a lot of fun on that trip.

Soon I will put some new photos from my next trip to Cuatro Cienegas. :)

Regards.

Just can't wait!
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Re: Review trip to Río Almoloya

Postby DRE » Fri Mar 11, 2011 1:56 am

Alex Odesit wrote: "Laguna de Bacalar" ..is it long drive from Tulum? What part of Mexico it is?

http://maps.google.se/maps?hl=sv&q=Lagu ... a=N&tab=il

Seem to be in the south east area, close to Berlize. Where is Cuatro Cienegas?
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Re: Review trip to Río Almoloya

Postby Alex Odesit » Fri Mar 11, 2011 9:48 am

DRE wrote:
Alex Odesit wrote: "Laguna de Bacalar" ..is it long drive from Tulum? What part of Mexico it is?

http://maps.google.se/maps?hl=sv&q=Lagu ... a=N&tab=il

Seem to be in the south east area, close to Berlize. Where is Cuatro Cienegas?


nice link Dre.
Seems this lagoon is very close to Cancun as well Rivera Maya area, it would be possible to rent the car and drive there to snorkel and see the fish.
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Re: Review trip to Río Almoloya

Postby Bernard GBX » Fri Mar 11, 2011 10:25 am

Hello,
I was last week near Tulum (after a week in Chiapas) and I found the Aktun Ha Cenote (10 km from Tulum - on Coba road).
If it is closed, you just have to go to the next one (100 m after on the same side of the road) and to discuss with the owner. Aktun Ha is just at the end of the road at the entrance of this cenote.
I saw : robertsoni, friedrichsthalii and of course Rocio (gemmata ?).
If you want to see urophthamus : Cenote azul (near Xpu Ha) ou just around the Tres Rios Hotel in North of Playa del Carmen.
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Re: Review trip to Río Almoloya

Postby fgfranco » Fri Mar 11, 2011 10:40 am

DRE wrote:
Alex Odesit wrote: "Laguna de Bacalar" ..is it long drive from Tulum? What part of Mexico it is?

http://maps.google.se/maps?hl=sv&q=Lagu ... a=N&tab=il

Seem to be in the south east area, close to Berlize. Where is Cuatro Cienegas?


Well, Cuatro Cienegas is far far away from south east, it is in Coahila, near from border with USA, this wont be my first trip to this place, here you can check my last trip to Cuatro Cienegas and something more ;)

http://www.ciclidos-mexico.com/galerias.html
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Re: Review trip to Río Almoloya

Postby Alex Odesit » Fri Mar 11, 2011 11:27 am

Bernard GBX wrote:Hello,
If you want to see urophthamus : Cenote azul (near Xpu Ha) ou just around the Tres Rios Hotel in North of Playa del Carmen.

I remember this place. Many locals coming there during the day to relax. Last year when I visited Azul it was very shallow and hard to swim without scraping the rocks at the bottom. And myriad of breeding Uro's with clouds fry around them (it was month of May).
BTW Bernard, did you see there (up the road when you coming back to the parking lot) 2 small water bodies with Rocio, that were pretty much emaciated. How does it look now?
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Re: Review trip to Río Almoloya

Postby Bernard GBX » Sat Mar 12, 2011 3:31 am

I wasn't there this year but last year and 4 years ago, there was 2 or three small cenote at the entrance and a big one at the end of the trail.
http://bernard.cichlid.free.fr/groupe-a ... topes.html (pictures 2005).
The octo looked very bad (fins cut) and the uro were the kings (I don't remember if uro and octo were both in the same cenote except the big one at the end and octo were only near the hole).
Some of these "octo" are now in France. I say "octo" because it's maybe gemmata.

The name of the cenote near aktun Ha : Zacil Ha (ony tilapias but no fence between the two cenotes).
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Re: Review trip to Río Almoloya

Postby Michael Kwist » Sat Mar 12, 2011 12:25 pm

I saw these pictures also on the East Anglia Cichlidgroup forum ;) They are amazing and good for inspiration, for those who want to make a Río Almoloya biotope. 8)
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Re: Review trip to Río Almoloya

Postby EC » Sun Mar 13, 2011 3:12 am

fgfranco wrote:You should visit "Laguna de Bacalar" and take some photos of P. synspilum "yellow" I can say that this fish is my holy grial


I've not an underwater camera but this is the yellow: http://waterpollo.blogspot.com/2010/11/ ... iallo.html
Nice trip! I will be in cuatro cienegas next month. It's possible to see fish only in poza azul? Thanks!

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Re: Review trip to Río Almoloya

Postby EC » Sun Mar 13, 2011 3:26 am

Bernard GBX wrote:If it is closed, you just have to go to the next one (100 m after on the same side of the road) and to discuss with the owner. Aktun Ha is just at the end of the road at the entrance of this cenote.


It's easy to find because from the road you can see the local name "carwash".

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