Xenotilapia ornatipinnis

[Nick]

Hi there,

My name is Nick, I'm 16 years old and I'm from the Netherlands.I only have 1 year of experiense with Tanganyika cichlids but i want something new. The fish I now have:
tank 120*40*55 (in cm), approx 240 liters.
7x Paracyprichromis Nigripinnis
2x Altolamprologus sp. Sumbu
2x Lamprologus Brevis (they move to the 60cm)

tank 60*30*40 (in cm), approx 60 liters?
Nothing yet.

I like these 2 Xenotilapia's: Xenotilapia flavipinnis kekese red and Xenotilapia ornatipinnis. My number 1 is the flavipinnis. But some people sayd to me that the ornatipinnis is easyer to keep. Since i don't have any experiense with Xenotilapia's this seems to be the safest option. I want to keep 1 of the 2 Xenotilapia's in my 120cm tank together with the Nigripinnis and the Sumbu's, the Sumbu's aren't agressive at all. So could you give me some information about the ornatipinnis? And maybe some nice pictures to really convince me to get these fish instead of the flavipinnis

Many thanks,
Nick

[Nick]

No one?

[Nick]

no one?

[Gerd]

Hello!

And maybe some nice pictures to really convince me to get these fish instead of the flavipinnis

My suggestion was to abandon the Sumbu idea.
The P.N. as well as the X.O are from deeper regions of the lake and fit together well.
Give them a dimmed, bluish light, and you'll have a feast for the eyes.

Regards
Gerd

[Nick]

Thanks!

And thanks for those beautiful pictures.

Do you only suggest to abandon the Sumbu because the Sumbu isn't really deep water, or is there another reason? Because i don't mind if the Ornatipinnis and the Nigripinnis are deep water and the Sumbu isn't.

Thanks,
Nick

[Gerd]

Hello!

Do you only suggest to abandon the Sumbu because the Sumbu isn't really deep water, or is there another reason?

No, there are not really "hard facts" which contradict the Sumbu. It might work. It's more or less a question of subjective preference, that would grant the whole substrate to the X.O. The P.N. and the X.O together make a harmony, that would be disturbed by the Sumbu. In my eyes. It always ended up in an unsatisfactory situation, when I added any species from the Lamprologini tribus to a combination like this. But this too, of course, is a question of your subjective expectation of what you want to see and watch.
The long and short: No objective arguments against the Sumbu!

Regards
Gerd

[Nick]

Thank you Gerd,

I'll keep the Sumbu in mind. Do you know any other fish that could live side by side with the Ornatipinnis and Nigripinnis in this thank size? Maybe the A. Comprecciceps. That's the only other fish I think would fit in. I do love rare fish but that's not a must.

Thanks,
Nick

[Nick]

How about one of these combinations:
8x Paracyprichromis Nigripinnis
8x Xenotilapia Ornatipinnis
8x Xenotilapia Rotundiventralis

Or
8x Paracyprichromis Nigripinnis
8x Xenotilapia Ornatipinnis
?x Trematocara Variabile

I think the first option will be to busy because the Rotundiventralis will use the bottem and the middle layers of the tank. And are there any good shops in Germany who don't sell the Variabile for more then €40.- because I found 1 shop here in the Netherlands and the do... And then it is only F1...

Thanks,
Nick

[alwin010]

Nick,

Je wilt echt teveel vis voor in je Rio 240! Dat komt het gedrag ten goede in je bak.

Waarom ga je niet voor;

School P. nigripinnis
School X. ornatipinnis

Dan heb je een mooi bestand, wat in de natuur ook bij elkaar in de buurt leeft.

De bak flink dimmen en je hebt een prachtbak.

Ik zelf heb deze combinatie gehad in mijn Rio 240

10 F1 P. nigripinnis
10 F1 X. flavipinnis kekese ''red royal''

Ik heb er een hoop foto's van, volgens mij staan ze hier ook al ergens. Op diverse Nl fora zijn ze ook al te vinden. Pb even als je wilt weten waar.

[Nick]

Ok, ik had al zo'n vermoeden maar ik vroeg het toch maar even. Bedankt!

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Thanks for the help everyone, I now know what I want and what i need to have for the fish.

Thanks,
Nick

[alwin010]

Nick,

Graag gedaan!

Waar heb je nu voor gekozen?

[Nick]

Ik ga toch voor de Xenotilapia Ornatipinnis. Vind ze toch net iets mooier als de Flavipinnis.

[fmueller]

Congratulation on a good choice! I could not agree more with Alvin's advice - less is often more. If you can restrict yourself to fewer species per tank, that often allows you to see more of the natural behaviors of the species you have chosen. For me, that's what it's all about!

[Nick]

Congratulation on a good choice! I could not agree more with Alvin's advice - less is often more. If you can restrict yourself to fewer species per tank, that often allows you to see more of the natural behaviors of the species you have chosen. For me, that's what it's all about!

Thanks, I already tought that it were to many fish. But who never shoots always misses (< dutch proverb )

[alwin010]

Mooie keus Nick!

Veel plezier met je bak!



At fmueller;

Thanks!

[MGSNK]

How about one of these combinations:
8x Paracyprichromis Nigripinnis
8x Xenotilapia Ornatipinnis
8x Xenotilapia Rotundiventralis

Or
8x Paracyprichromis Nigripinnis
8x Xenotilapia Ornatipinnis
?x Trematocara Variabile

I think the first option will be to busy because the Rotundiventralis will use the bottem and the middle layers of the tank. And are there any good shops in Germany who don't sell the Variabile for more then €40.- because I found 1 shop here in the Netherlands and the do... And then it is only F1...

Thanks,
Nick

Both combinations would not work in such a small tank, I've actually had the pleasure of keeping both rotundiventrlis and variabile with ornatipinnis, not a good combination in such a small tank.

I'm a bit dissapointed for the fact that you are scoffing at the pricing of the Trematocara, obviously you have no idea how much trouble is taken to capture these fish.
Wildcaught specimen cost approx. 90-150 euro's depending on the variant and number of caught specimen. The fish are caught at large depths and dangerous conditions.
Getting the fish to actually EAT in a tank is a accomplishment in itself since they mostly eat their food based on their sensory pores (and thus only eat things that move.)
Breeding them is an art which is not replicated often, only in a stress free enviroment will these fish actually breed.