Crenicichla sp. Iquazu big lips (or sp. botox) has a name.

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Crenicichla sp. Iquazu big lips (or sp. botox) has a name.

Post by DRE » Sat Oct 03, 2015 6:04 am

Also another species is described.
Crenicichla tapii.

Crenicichla sp. Iquazu big lips (or sp. botox) -> Crenicichla tuca.

Finally some discussion on mixed material in the description of C. yaha resulting that they should now be called C. tesay and a new description is needed for the subset of material in the yaha description. This is very unclear for me and I would need some real hand holding to get it. :-)

Lubomír Piálek, Klára Dragová, Jorge Casciotta, Adriana Almirón, and Oldřich Říčan. 2015. Description of two new species of Crenicichla (Teleostei: Cichlidae) from the lower Iguazú River with a taxonomic reappraisal of C. iguassuensis, C. tesay and C. yaha. Historia Natural 5: 5-27.
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Post by Juan Artigas » Sat Oct 03, 2015 8:05 am

Thanks! Is the description public domain? Do you know where to find it?
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Re: Crenicichla sp. Iquazu big lips (or sp. botox) has a name.

Post by DRE » Sat Oct 03, 2015 8:13 am

In crenicichla Facebook group. Not sure if it is public domain, but I have the paper.

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Post by Mark Smith » Sat Oct 03, 2015 10:16 am

Is there a link to the paper?

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Post by Mark Smith » Sat Oct 03, 2015 10:29 am

I am so glad that C. tuka was not given the corny name of C. "botox" as its formal name.

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Hehe

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Post by Juan Artigas » Sat Oct 03, 2015 10:36 am

What about C. oliverlucanusii. That would had been a nice and deserved name
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Post by Mark Smith » Sat Oct 03, 2015 11:19 am

Of course, that would have been much better. He does deserve to have more than one species named after him for all the interesting/rare species he has brought into the hobby.

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Post by DRE » Sat Oct 03, 2015 2:23 pm

Can someone explain what happens with C. yaha?
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Re: Crenicichla sp. Iquazu big lips (or sp. botox) has a name.

Post by Mark Smith » Sat Oct 03, 2015 2:47 pm

When looking at the color photos of live C. iguassuensis and C. tuka in this paper, it is hard to imagine how the authors of the 2001 paper thought that C. tuka was a polymorphic variant of C. iguassuensis. The mouth shape is completely different, among others.

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