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New Apistogramma

Postby Florent » Sun Dec 04, 2011 2:56 am

Römer, U. & I. Hahn (in press): Apistogramma playayacu sp. nov.: Description of a new cichlid species (Teleostei: Perciformes: Geophaginae) from the Rio Napo system, Ecuador. Vertebrate Zoology, 12p.

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Re: New Apistogramma

Postby Philippe Burnel » Sun Dec 04, 2011 6:16 am

Merci Florent
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Re: New Apistogramma

Postby Mike Wise » Mon Dec 05, 2011 1:09 pm

Do you know when the description will be published in Vertebrate Zoology?
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Re: New Apistogramma

Postby Florent » Tue Dec 06, 2011 6:30 am

Sorry Mike I don't know .
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Re: New Apistogramma

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Re: New Apistogramma

Postby cichla » Sun Dec 18, 2011 10:23 am

Dear all,
I think the new Apistogramma is identical with Apistogramma sp. „Rio Caqueta“ (e.g. in Staeck & Linke 2006).
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Re: New Apistogramma

Postby Mike Wise » Mon Dec 19, 2011 11:54 am

Yes, the same species as A. sp. "Caquetá", first introduced the the hobby by Kästner in 2005. I was with Dr. Römer and David Soares at the Field Museum in Chicago to examine the holotype of Heterogramma trifasciatum macilense. The curators asked us if we would like to see some undescribed apistos from Ecuador. Of course, we said YES!. The type series of (now) A. playayacu was found mixed with specimens of A. payaminonis and another yet undescribed species. When we saw the fish, we looked at each other and smiled; we now had location data for Kästner's fish. Ecuador is very restrictive on the export of wildlife, so it is unlikely that A. playayacu will be introduced to our aquaria unless it is also found farther downstream in Peru.
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Re: New Apistogramma

Postby cichla » Sun Jan 01, 2012 5:09 pm

Thank you, Mike, to let us peep behind the scene.
Good that you - as a leading experts in Apistogramma - confirm the specific identity of Apistogramma sp. „Rio Caqueta“ (as in Staeck & Linke 2006) and Apistogramma playayacu.
Funny enough Römer et al (2011) cited the book by Staeck & Linke (there as Linke & Staeck), but still not recognize that Staeck & Linke printed the new species in the book.
I am just puzzled why you are – as a team member – not part of the authors of the new taxon?
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Re: New Apistogramma

Postby Mike Wise » Mon Jan 02, 2012 1:49 pm

cichla wrote:Thank you, Mike, to let us peep behind the scene.
Good that you - as a leading experts in Apistogramma - confirm the specific identity of Apistogramma sp. „Rio Caqueta“ (as in Staeck & Linke 2006) and Apistogramma playayacu.


I am always happy to supply information when I am able.

Funny enough Römer et al (2011) cited the book by Staeck & Linke (there as Linke & Staeck), but still not recognize that Staeck & Linke printed the new species in the book.


I have no idea. I know that Dr. Staeck and Dr. Römer have had 'differences of opinions' in the past. Could this be a reason?

I am just puzzled why you are – as a team member – not part of the authors of the new taxon?
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I am only a hobbyist, not an ichthyologist. I really have no interest authoring or co-authoring taxonomic papers. My taxonomy experience is limited to Early Devonian brachiopods (MSc thesis and 1 paper in the Journal of Paleontology, many (many!) years ago). I was trained by one of the more respected taxonomists in Devonian Period fauna, so I have some background. Whether the organisms have been extinct for 400 million years or still alive, taxonomy is taxonomy.

Trust me, your English is much better than my German!
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Re: New Apistogramma

Postby cichla » Sun Jan 08, 2012 4:38 pm

Thank you ones again Mike.
Mike Wise wrote:I am only a hobbyist,...My taxonomy experience is limited to Early Devonian brachiopods (MSc thesis and 1 paper in the Journal of Paleontology, ....

You are too modest 8) Actually, the 'Journal of Paleontology' is a 'major league' scientific periodical. If you can make it there, you will make it anywhere ;-)
Cichla wrote:...Römer et al (2011) cited the book by Staeck & Linke (there as Linke & Staeck), but still not recognize that Staeck & Linke printed the new species in the book.
Mike Wise wrote:I have no idea. I know that Dr. Staeck and Dr. Römer have had 'differences of opinions' in the past. Could this be a reason?

Well, this is likely the case. Nevertheless, I think, it is not very scientific not to acknowledge it. Particularly, since the book by Staeck & Linke is listed by Römer et al. (2011) in the references used.
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