Apistogramma Ortmanni

[RayQ]

I have a group of five of these (2m - 3f), not sure if they are actually Ortmanni, I thought that I would show a couple of photos and get the experts opinions. . .

male


female


Any input would be greatly apprecitated. I am also atempting to get the origin of them - supposed to be wild stock.

Ray

[RayQ]

It appears that they are infact A. Steindachneri, based on the lateral spot and the caudal spot. Please share some experiences if you have any with these neat little fish.

Thanks,

Ray

[Hudson Ensz]

Wow those look SO close to my hippolytae where are they from?

[RayQ]

These are from Guyana according to the importer. I have learned that they are supposed to be closely related.

[Mike Wise]

Ray, your A. steindachneri look very much like the "A. wickleri" color form of this species that we had back in the 60' & 70's. They are a wonderful fish.

[RayQ]

Thanks very much for the input Mike! GREAT another variation to toss into the apisto hat as if ID wasn't daunting enough

Ray

[Mike Wise]

Apistogramma wickleri is only a junior synonym for A. steindachneri. These "wickleri" fish were mostly blue on the body, unlike some of the form we see today that have a lot of yellow, too. My specimens back then were easy-going and BIG - easily getting to 4"/10cm TL. I hope yours are the same.

[RayQ]

Thanks agian Mike, here are a couple more shots from tonight. . . I am not sure if she has eggs in the shell, but, the male will not be able to get in there now!





I assume that the eggs will not hatch if there are any, my water is very hard and ph is about 8.0 out of the tap. I have done nothing to treat water as of yet, just getting them comfy for now I guess it's working.

Ray